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I took Depyrrol because the Core hadn't come out yet. I took it for about two years. Six months into it, ART testing showed I needed to supplement copper.
I think it was an important piece of the puzzle to achieving wellness.
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The need for CORE is not constant, but certainly with most people I test it needs to be followed closely. Copper is needed by most with several days in between. Same answer from Dr. K.
Detoxing metals takes years and the need continues because the body cannot change that quickly. Even more so when someone tested allergic to the metals. It takes almost daily testing - with a reliable method to make sure the body can deal with it. If you were also lead toxic, that takes removal from the long bones where it is stored and takes a long time. It is not unpleasant, but it is felt.
KPU is either Lyme induced or inherited. That also plays a role.
It can easily be tested with energetic testing.
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Gigi, when people need to add copper.... what are the ball-park amounts that they need to supplement with? Any special form of copper?
I am appreciating all this info on KPU - I am learning a ton!
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I look forward to others replies on this - I plan on starting CORE in a few weeks and need as much info as possible!
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KrystalKlear, I was taught to use BodyBio 4. Available online. Normal is 4 drops. If I test as lacking it, I will double that or more. Test again next and consequtive days. You will get a feel for it. Test every 2-3 days. Tensor testing works great. You can also test quantity with tensor.
If you see varicose veins, think copper deficiency. Bad is aneurysm.
Google other symptoms. Tied to anemia.
Very important to watch.
Take care.
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Thank you, everybody, for your replies.
I am taking The CORE [have been for about 5 months], but my test results were fairly borderline, so I am wondering how long I need to continue.
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Ukarry, have you noticed any results?
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You need to take it for detoxing toxic metals and detoxing in general. A good indication is what a hairtest shows as far as essential minerals are concerned. If you lack zinc and the partners that are in CORE, you are handicapped. It is the least expensive remedy to support your detoxing. If you don't have that, getting well is a forever attempt and will never work properly.
It is one of the major problems most Lyme people face -- peeing out zinc and other minerals, lacking enzyme, that are then not available for the body to handle metals.
if urine collection is sloppy, testing is not realiable. Don't take the minerals, etc. 5-7 days before collecting specimen, and also do the collection during a stressful time. The deficit is tied to stress (which is not hard to come by with Lyme-life)!
Results are not obvious for a long time, because metal detoxing is a longterm effort and to see obvious results will take quite some time. It takes time for instance, for lead to leave and move out of the long bones and joints.
Unless you can do energetic testing and see that the metals are flowing frequently, etc., that is when you can tell that things are being mobilized and that you need to support with binding materials to make sure the toxins leave the body, all the way out.
Learning to energy test is worth every bit of effort! I have several ART doctors available when I want, but I can instantly help myself or others with energy testing and don't need to wait or pay for appointments. I would encourage everyone learning some form of it.
Take care.
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I just got a hair test from Doctor's Data and my zinc levels are well within the normal levels, actually slightly elevated from the norm. It sounds like I can now assume that I do not have KPU, else a deficiency would be evident in the hair test results. This way really does appeal to me more than sending my urine off to another continent.
Doctor's Data is the largest hair testing lab in the country. I believe the test with coupon code cost me $74 and about $81 with shipping. This is the test that Andrew Hall Cutler wants people to use for making heavy metal detox decisions and that is why I got it.
Instructions given me for ordering: Order online through directlabs.com under "order labs" and "specialty labs". Order the "hair elements" test, NOT the "toxic elements" test. The hair elements measures everything you need including heavy metals. Use AUT as the coupon code at checkout, and you'll get a discount.
Here's an example of what a hair test looks like. Try Hair Test #354:
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lymenotlite, there is a lot more involved with KPU/HPU than the hair test or essential mineral test shows. Maybe you should take the time to read through the enclosed explaining what Kryptopyrroluria is all about. Or listen to the Planetdrive video that I have posted many times.
Here are both links - hope it can tell things better than I am able to.
Take care.
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lymenotlite - I have done a lot of hair tests over the years. The first one I ever did showed zinc right in the middle of normal but many other were messed up.
As I continued doing the test every three months, they always changed. Zinc was not in the normal range most of the time.
I never did the urine test. My ART doc took one look at my fingernail and put me on the Core. The white lines in my nails come and go as do the ridges.
ukcarry - I have been on the Core for almost two years but always at 2 a day instead of the usual 4 - per ART.
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Lymielauren, I have had a particularly poor year, but I have a lot of metal chelating to do and The CORE, together with Pure Encapsulations' Mineral 650, is probably increasing the levels of metals being released....
.so it's probably too early to say. I had a. increasingly bad reaction to DMSA a couple of months ago, so am on a temporary break from the actual chelators; sticking to chlorella, clay, modified citrus pectin.
I just don't want to overload with zinc beyond a suitable balance. If I stopped, I would still be getting 25mg from the Minerals 650, but of course, The CORE is about more than just zinc.
Thank you Nanadubo, I was wondering about lowering my dose to 2 or 3 too, but need to find a source for copper testing as well.
I did watch the planetthrive video again. There are unanswered questions and confusion regarding urine collection.
At about 1:06 he starts discussing urine collection. His focus is autistic children but I presume the instructions are the same for those with lyme.
He wants a 24 hour collection. The person that is being collected from can't be on any antimicrobials, any mineral or any B vitamin. Optimally, the person should be stressed so the maximum of compounds come out. The main excretion of HPU is in the afternoon around 4-5 but it can vary so samples should be taken throughout 24 hours.
The HPU compound in urine has a half life of 10 hours and should be kept in the refrigerator to extend that. The refrigerator has electromagnetic fields so the container should be wrapped in aluminum foil.
Use a large milk or orange container to hold the urine, especially a container with a liner. This leaves me visualizing sending a half gallon of urine in an already opened milk carton. I'm unfamiliar with milk cartons that have liners. How would you secure an opened milk container so that it won't leak? It really sounds like Dr. K is more interested in preserving the landfills than in making it easy and feasible to send the sample.
Put 500mg ascorbic acid (about a teaspoon he says initially but later says 1/4 teaspoon) in the container. It is okay if there is too much ascorbic acid. Wrap the container in aluminum foil. Put it in the fridge. After collection put it in the transport tube (presumably add the ascorbic acid at that point but maybe it needs to be added during the collection) and put that in the freezer. Freezing enables some components to be detected.
I don't think most people would want to send a sample with so much lack of clarity on the process. Any clarification welcome.
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lymenotlite, if you order the test kit, you will get a vial that you fill with some of the content of the orange carton that you had in the fridge. You probably have to make sure you shake the orange carton before you fill the vial for the lab.
Many people have sent in the sample for testing the last couple of years and have figured out how to do it.
And yes, Dr. K. is concerned about landfills in general, butI don't think it is necessary to make that type comment about a man who offers you all that advice for free. Everybody should get a doctor for that type of treatment anyway, because the detox process that follows needs to be done under the supervision of someone who understands it. Metal detox is not a do-it-yourself process.
Take care.
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No offense to the doctor. I was just saying what things sounded like to me. I've been accepted as a patient at Dr. K's clinic but the starting fees with the naturopaths are not affordable to me at this time. It would involve a week of daily treatment and I'm sure it would be good but for now....
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