Kudzuslipper
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Could some one take pity me on here, and explain in lay terms what the controversy with taking magnesium supplements? I have had trouble following the treads on this topic.
I feel better taking it(away from abx of course.) But don't want to do more harm than good.
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Keebler
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- I would never give up my magnesium. I do not agree with that - for my own care at this time.
Now, is magnesium in biofilm? Looks like it. Along with other stuff.
Still, if my cells are deficient in magnesium (as it sure seems), I must have it. It's doing me no favor by keeping something I very much need from my cells.
There are many ways to address the issue of biofilm, many. Grapefruit Seed Extract is one.
Starving my body of magnesium it needs is not the way to go, in my opinion.
WHY do those with lyme seem to need more magnesium?
1) Well, it gets stolen from us, so to speak. My guess is that biofilm can use only so much so by my then replenishing what my body needs, I'm not really adding to the magnesium stores of biofilm because that requires more than just magnesium.
2) With toxicity, the excitatory NMDA neuro-receptors go hay wire. Magnesium calms that down and prevents nerve cell death.
Magnesium is also needed for liver function and many other functions of the body.
Is it important to take a look at what the researchers find regarding this? Absolutely. But they are not the ones who suffer the consequence of seizures when my magnesium is taken away.
Magnesium is absolutely, by far, the very best help to lessen the intensity and frequency of seizures, in my case.
Magnesium is the very best antidepressant I've ever taken and it has never tried to kill me as the pharmaceutical antidepressants did in years past.
Magnesium is the very best pain reliever I've ever found.
And on and on.
Will I work to figure out how to outsmart biofilm? Sure. But not to the detriment of my safety along the way. Magnesium keeps me safe on this journey. -
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Kudzuslipper
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So Keebler, do the nay sayers say that magnesium feeds and supports biofilms? create biofilms? what is a biofilm anyway? I get what a cyst is, but not sure I get the whole biofilm concept.
I swear, we need to understand so much medical stuff, when we are foggy to begin with.
thanks for being so wonderful and helping all you do.
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Keebler
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- I think there are only 2 researchers who are suggesting magnesium be withheld. And they are looking at it from their perspective.
I am not saying their hard work is not valuable. It is. It's just that the suggested action could literally kill me in light of this seizure disorder for which magnesium has been the best support.
Biofilm is not just about borrelia spirochetes.
It's the outer coating many germs use to block medicine.
It may be but is not necessary about the borrelia cyst form. As I understand it, even the spirochete can develop a protective barrier, independent of it rolling up into cyst form which then develops a very protective outer layer, of sorts.
Some of the same things can work against both biofilm and the outer coating of the cystic form (NAC, GSE, Flagyl ? ).
There have been links posted by the researchers studying this. Best to read directly from their work. A lot can get lost in translation and via the grapevine. Go to the SOURCE.
I may have simplified it too much in my own interpretation and I know I'm coming at it just from my angle. And I've not had a LLMD to consult about this.
For those fortunate enough to have a good LLMD or LL ND, do ask their thoughts on this.
I know that there are a couple LLMD at various conferences who have expressed the same thoughts as I about the need for magnesium, looking for other ways to address biofilm.
I hope the researchers will continue to explore. -
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I have to agree with Keebler. At this point the F lab is the only lab I know of that can even test for biofilm. And since they developed the test and have not patented it or published anything other medical docs have not been able to prove or disprove their theories.
According to the F lab the newly found protozoa which used to be called FL1953 develops a biofilm which contains magnesium and fat and not sure what else.
There has been some research in the test tube that has found biofilms formed by borrelia I think.
The current issue of Life Extension magazine (February, 2012) has a very detailed article regarding the importance of magnesium to prevent alzheimer's. The research was done by MIT (Massachusetts Institute of Technology) and they have found a new form of magnesium that increases magnesium in the spinal fluid by 15% and increases both short and long term memory significantly.
I am ordering hubby some magnesium L-threonate from Life Extension tomorrow.
The title of the article is "Novel Magnesium Compound Reverses Neurodegeneration." It explains how this particular form of magnesium works on the NMDA receptors and increases synaptic density and plasticity.
I think if this supplement lives up to the hype it will be a tremendous breakthrough in nutritional supplementation.
The article says that this particular form of magnesium can be used to treat PTSD and anxiety and depression.
Bea Seibert
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Kudzuslipper
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Thanks keebler, the simplification is exactly what I was looking for. I get very confused reading medical/research stuff.
Thanks for the tip on the new magnesium bea. And as always thanks tutu for great opinions.
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- Kudzuslipper,
My words are just my own thoughts. It's best to read from many sources close to the topic and then ask your LLMD, of course.
Bea,
Yes, thanks so much for that detail. Very helpful. -
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Kudzuslipper
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I totally understand Keebler. I will of course check. But it helps to get opinions and interpretations.
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