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Kramberry
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I always read that to treat parasite first,

My question is " is parasite brought by lyme?"

Or is it already in our body before lyme? thAt needs to be getting rid off first. Because if we have parasite before lyme people doesnt treat for them right? Because they dont cause symptoms unless worse case. But when lyme infected we addres to it first.

Same goes to the heavy metals etc..thats always being said to address for it. do we already have this before lyme?

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Lyme is known as the gatekeeper.

Most Americans carry parasites with them right now (some microscopic, some bigger)

Most Americans have also been exposed to mercury lead, etc (amalgams, food, water)

For some of us the tick bite and subsequent infection with Borrelia will eventually suppress the immune system enough to allow these other issues to surface. (hence why they NOW need to be treated)

Some of us may have been carrying borrelia with us since birth and the exposure to toxins, stress, and poor diet can lead to the beginning of Lyme Disease (remember you don't have the disease until you become sick with it)
If you could have found a balance in life, avoid stress, avoid all of the immune suppressing toxins that surround us, eat right, detox well and keep mineral levels up... some believe you can be asymptomatic and never know you carry the Lyme spirochete in you.

Whether you were bit by a tick or have been carrying borrelia around with you for life is irrelevant. You are here now so clearly your immune system has succumb to the pathogens/toxins.

The reason to treat parasites first is two-fold. 1) they carry metals, bacteria, viruses and can restart the viscous cycle at any time if necessary. So NOT treating them would potentially lead to a relapse after feeling better.

2) they rob us of nutrients (minerals, vitamins, calories). This one is self-explanatory.

Heavy metals are arguably the most suppressing "toxin" we're exposed to. Must be dealt with correctly or you could simply be redistributing them throughout the body making things/organs worse.

You ultimately want to clear the terrain as much as you can, fight off as much of the pathogens as you can, and find a balance where your imune system can function and police the streets again.

You will never kill ALL the bacteria, viruses, parasites in your body. Just as you probably won't remove ALL the metals in your body. But you can eliminate enough of them to find that balance and asymptomatic recovery.

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Kramberry
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Thanks canefan very well explained.

I wonder why some llmds dont addres to them, they just keep bombarding us with massive doses and abx thus not getting well because they dont address this problems 1st. My heart goes to this sick people who trust this drs so much that some of them doesnt care if you get well or not as long as they get paid.

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The Lyme Disease Complex is very taboo to mainstream medicine so even most LLMDs are influenced by Western Medicine (treat symptoms not cause - treat disease not terrain)

I study macro-economics and the parallels between that and the human body are eerily similar.

The environmental toxins we face today in our food, water, products and teeth are equivalent to cheap credit (The Fed pumping/stimulating the system with low interest dollars)

In both cases it creates a boom where we might FEEL healthy and enjoy our current lifestyle of staying out late, eating fast food, stressed and in a hurry, drinking alcohol and sodas.
Or economically speaking, remaining a service economy filled with consumption of products and less savings/production.

Eventually the bottom drops out in both examples and there's a need for major detox (of toxins and malinvestment)

The government, unfortunately, makes things much worse by regulating more, taxing more, and stimulating more (aka antibiotics, pain killers, steroids, chemo, GMOs) until eventually the dollar (immune system) collapses completely.

Now we have to get back to sound money, savings, and production (aka real food, clean water, herbs, sleep, & exercise)

Much like the market place it's desirable to find a balance in our body.

[Big Grin]


I'm bored

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NanaDubo
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Hey - like that analogy canefan.

I think it was Boyd Haley (could be wrong) that found certain tetracyclines increase mercury toxicity - increases the half life by 100 times.

It is talked about at www.mercurylife.com - a pretty long read but very interesting.

Kramberry - the doctors that are aware of the role heavy metals, parasites and the like play in "lyme" are not that common. They are hard to get to and are VERY overworked. They do exist.

More are coming around but can take a one size fits all approach which I am very leery of.

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