Topic: Reminder about incandescant/fluorescent lights
MichaelTampa
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For those sensitive to fluorescent lights, as a reminder, as of 1/1/2012, it will be illegal to buy the incandescent ones, other than some very limited exceptions.
I finally started my stock-up process, bought a few hundred.
The regular incandescent bulbs are getting smaller and smaller display space in the stores, as stores are pushing the fluorescents much more. US production of the incandescent bulbs stopped months ago, there really is no telling when they will become unavailable. There may be some great discounts available in December, but it also may be that there are none left by then.
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I hate this!! The new bulbs are full of mercury and they are also a fire hazard! Have you seen the email that is circulating about the fire hazard??
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This whole issue is really upsetting and infuriating.
I'm all for streamlining and improving energy efficiency but telling me how I may or may not light my home is not acceptable. The government is WAY overstepping on this one.
I think people should be outraged over this.
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Abxnomore
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This is really distressing me, too. I won't use those energy saver ones due to the mercury. I have noticed that every time I go to CVS they barely have any incandescent light bulbs.
Are we going to be reduced to buying light bulbs from third world countries on line, as some of us have to do to get our ABX?
You were smart to stock up. I'm going to try and do the same.
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MichaelTampa
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Outraged, definitely, yes, way overboard for sure.
Hadn't heard about the fire hazard line of thinking, but interesting reading the view that the CFL's aren't meant for certain kinds of lighting, such as recessed or track lighting. Wonder if they will just casually remove those warnings as other bulbs become unavailable.
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LED is coming and should be better for all.
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Do we really know that LED is safe? I'm not convinced. We already know that blue LED can damage the retina (and there is blue light in a white LED).
Also, I believe halogen lights are the ones that pose a fire hazard.
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Not sure I trust Snopes. Call me a skeptic on that.
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True. LED lights bother my eyes.
Yes, halogen lights get very hot and are a fire risk. Many schools ban them in dormitories.
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MichaelTampa
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I find the LED's in the 5500-6000K range of light to be pretty okay for me, but ones more in the 3000K range of light to be bad for me, just like the halogens and the fluorescents.
The LED's are getting cheaper. I remember paying $50-$70 per bulb to try them out. I saw one in Lowe's the other day for $17.
Of course, my wife has a problem with the brightness of the LED's, so that really isn't a solution for us now. It might be a solution for some. They are working on covering up the LED lights and putting them in bulb shapes that look more like regular bulbs. As they do this, the efficiency is lost some, and then you need to buy even more of the bulbs, or lamps that hold 3 bulbs, things like that.
Such a shame, the incandescents work really well. I'd feel better about it if it wasn't obvious, life on this planet for people is already past doomed, outlawing incandescents just isn't going to change that, sorry. Why not just bide our remaining last few decades with some nice bulbs. We had a nice ride.
One can hope the wave of LED will come and get rid of those awful fluorescents soon, and they will make them in a good light range for everybody, but I am not holding my breath on any of that.
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The fire hazard is real with the CFL's. We put one in our ceiling light in the bedroom, and it sparked and there was burn marks on the fixture and on the CFL bulb base. I refuse to burn my house down just to satisfy a law that never should have been passed in the first place (the mercury issue, the CFL's flicker drive me & I'm sure many others nuts, and I hate the color of the light from them).
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What about those of us who are electrosensitive? I can't even go into a Walmart or shop at Giant anymore because of the fluorescent lights.
What about red incandescents? Will they still be available? I really don't care what color my lighting is, as long as I'm not being EMF-ed to death.
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Exactly why I'm stocking up on the old bulbs. Everytime I see a good price or go to the dollar store I'm buying light bulbs.
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I prefer kerocene lanterns to those horrible florescent lights! Glad you reminded me to stock up as I would be so angry to not be able to find any. I do feel guilty about using more electricity but I can cut back on the numbers of lights I leave on. I will have to be more energy conscious to have enough bulbs to last my lifetime.
Why didn't they give us the option of buying regular 12 volt light bulbs and running them off a solar panel? I did that 25 years ago and it works great. My husband just told me the other day that he saved the solar panels - "just in case".
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MichaelTampa
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According to wikipedia, "Exemptions from the Act include reflector flood, 3-way, candelabra, colored, and other specialty bulbs." So, perhaps the 3-ways and colored bulbs will still be available. But, it may become not profitable to make just the specialty bulbs, as sales will be limited.
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Tammy N.
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Thanks so much for posting this. I wasn't aware. I'm going to stock up.
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I've read that a lot of people are stocking up. I have been doing it for about a year or so now.
I have let my stock get low so I hope I can find a good source. I HATE those new lights. They are bad for your health!!
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MichaelTampa
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Actually ran into the information, later yesterday, that it is the 100W that will be illegal starting 1/1/2012, then in 1/1/2013 the 75W will be illegal, and then in 1/1/2014 the 40W and 60W will be illegal.
So, a little bit of a phased approach. The thing I don't know is, will they keep making them available until they are illegal. At some point, it can become unprofitable to make just a limited selection, and things would shut down entirely.
By the way, halogen also to become illegal as of 1/1/2020. So, this may be a temporary solution for some, but not a permanent solution.
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Let me tell you the real reason for all of this.. Our govt says it saves energy. Well it may but that is NOT the reason for this. The new energy CZAR is the former CEO from GE. Hummm makes one think???? Ge is the manufacturer of halogen bulbs. The new czar is from GE...GET IT ...They banned the regular bulbs here...when now they are selling the old type bulbs in all of China !!!! Once again we are duped into saving the planet when in actuality it is the usual politics of tit for tat and greed.
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quote:Originally posted by sk8ter: Once again we are duped into saving the planet when in actuality it is the usual politics of tit for tat and greed.
I believe it since it happens all the time. Where am I going to store 1,000 light bulbs!?? It's great unless we have to move or something. Would sure hate to pack up tons of bulbs.
Gotta get started on my supply. Maybe someone will change their minds about this.. like they did with the "NEW Coke!!??""
You youngsters won't know about that debacle.
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MichaelTampa
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Bumping this as it has a little more info and is now a current thread. Note that NV and CA passed their own laws and went a year early.
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It's great unless we have to move or something. Would sure hate to pack up tons of bulbs.
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