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Yesterday I borrowed a rife machine to give it a try. The women who let me try it set it to the borrelia frequency and I used it for 3 minutes and another frequency for parasites for 3 minutes. I also used one frequency for fatigue for 3 minutes.
I can't be sure, but I may have felt slightly better about an hour afterwards (less dizzy and fatigued) � not sure if that was wishful thinking... Then when I laid down for sleep, I felt revved up, anxious and like I was tipping. I'm not sure how to fully describe the tipping, it is like vertigo without the spinning feeling.
This morning it is gone. Is this a standard reaction to rife? Does it mean it targeted the borrelia and/or parasites? I wanted to try the machine because I've had a lot of treatment failures so wanted to see if Rife may be effective for me before buying it.
I am grateful for any feedback anyone may have.
thanks!
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Its hard to say, all I can do is compare my experience. Feeling better after rife is usual for me. I often have trouble falling asleep the night I use the rife machine.
Be very careful. Sometimes the herx may come a couple of days later. Go slowly. Three minutes for me is way too long to start, but may be fine for you. I started at 15 seconds. Good luck.
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Thanks for the feedback. I guess the 3 minute minimum the rife manual recommended was way too much?
I've been up for a few hours today and have to say I am feeling pretty wrecked. Overall my body feels week, I have an overwhelming fatigue and my eyes are very heavy. I'm not sure I've ever had an official herx, so don't have a frame of reference here. Does this sound like a good sign in your experience?
Thanks!
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I would try again and target only one thing... either Lyme OR parasites, not both. That way you know what is going on.
and yes, go slow!!!
Sounds like you are on the right path.
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Carol in PA
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quote:Originally posted by never-give-up:
I've been up for a few hours today and have to say I am feeling pretty wrecked. Overall my body feels week, I have an overwhelming fatigue and my eyes are very heavy.
This sounds like a herx to me. I found that I get severe fatigue and a persistent headache.
What are you doing for liver support? Anything you can do to help the liver make glutathione will help it to clear out the neurotoxins (nerve poisons) left behind by the dead Lyme bacteria.
Magnesium Fish oil CoEnzyme Q10 Acetyl L-carnitine Alpha lipoic acid N-acetyl cysteine Undenatured whey Milk thistle
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- Are you taking liver support and adrenal support supplements? Magnesium? Fish Oil?
Melatonin for sleep?
To calm body anytime: Milk Oat Seed glycerine tincture. Holy Basil (Tulsi).
All those help.
Drink LOTS of water, especially after rife and for a few days later - but also everyday we need lots of water. 8-10 full glasses. Probably no more than 12, though.
Also, be sure to not use the rife for lyme more than every 12 days. You can use it for other things more frequently but - for lyme, just every 12 days until you get further along. More often and the die off from the spirochetes can stress (and damage) kidneys.
Also, you might get the Lyme / Rife book by Bryan Rosner. He discusses heavy metals there and that detail is really important with rife use. -
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- Carol posted while I was composing. She's got great detail.
Also, be sure to avoid Acetaminophen as that blocks the liver's ability to make glutathione and can make recovery harder in the long run. (And Ibuprophen can be hard on the kidneys.)
Magnesium and Fish oil can help reduce pain. Turmeric (or the stronger Turmeric Extract, Curcumin).
Beyond those, Corydalis with Angelica. One source:
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Thanks everyone! this is so strange. I now feel less of the weak/fatigue feelings and am back to the tippy/vertigo-like feeling and with that some serious anxiety.
To answer questions about detox. I have been eating a lot of raw and cultured veggies today and drinking beet kvass and lots of water. I am also drinking something called dandy blend which is good for the liver.
As for heavy metals, I have a large load of mercury and lead. I did DMSA for some time, but not as of late. according to Bryan Rosner, alpha lipoic acid would be a good option. i have some. perhaps I should add that for now to my protocol as well.
Basically, my daily regimen is the KPU vitamin protocol (so includes magnesium), vitamin D3, I take magnesium daily, holy basil, l-theanine, isocort and I also take one homeopathic remedy that my classical homeopath prescribed (classical in the sense that he never combines remedies). That's about it.
I have many of the above suggestions stowed away, like NAC and co-Q10. perhaps I should take it while I'm feeling like this?
I am very grateful for everyone's input!
Thanks
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The sensation you describe of feeling Tipsy is a Babesia symptoms.
I'm PCR pos. for Babs and it is listed on most symptom lists as a Babs symptom.
It's an off Balance but not a True Vertigo.
Maybe describe it as Swaying or being on a boat sensation.
Curious what frequency numbers were ran on you. You may have hit Babesia when you thought you were treating Bart or even the Parasite number. Many numbers used for one infection are used for another although I have not seen this for Babs and Bart.
Def. sounds like a Herx to me.
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you know, i was thinking that. when i was taking mepron a couple of years ago, this tippy feeling was one that i remember from then. So maybe i have herxed before, but wasn't aware of it.
The frequencies i used were #1 and #42 for sure. The third one I think was 24, but am not positive.
i can't believe i can still have babesia. i can't tell you how many treatments I did for it! agh.
thanks!
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quote:The frequencies i used were #1 and #42 for sure. The third one I think was 24, but am not positive.
Those are not frequencies, well 24 could be a frequency, but I don't think your listing them correctly. Perhaps the person that let you use the machine could tell you. I'm curious to know i.e. 432, 570, 832, etc.
LT
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I heard from her and those were definitely the codes on her machine. She said we did #1, 26 (borrelia). I still have to find out what #42 was specific to.
Her machine is called Global Wellness -- newer version was The Detox box.
Maybe the codes align with a frequency like the ones you mentioned above? I'll see if I can find out.
thanks!
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A lot of people feel somewhat like a cold is coming on or have other "sickly" feelings which subside in about a day.
What frequencies did you run?
NEVER run 432Hz longer than one minute. Usually this -> a BIG herx.
Did you run 128Hz?
One should not do Rife before thoroughly researching and understanding it.
The machines that send the frequencies thru a gas are much more powerful (has to do with depth of penetration).
General frequencies (there is a list) should be used first to rid old infections, vaccines, etc.
432Hz is "perfect A" and is the frequency of light.
IMO...128Hz maybe more "powerful". Long story and lots of research.
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-What frequency did you run? Mfg codes means nothing.
-How long was each frequency run?
-Was it a Pad or Plasma Device?
-How much Power was being put out.
-If Plasma, how far away were you from the source? (my machine looses 75% of its power with every 1 foot of distance).
-Sine or Square wave?
-Gated?
There are sooooo many variables to Rife. Its common for someone to ask simple questions, but its similar to asking how much you would charge me to paint my house. Until I explain how large my house is, type of wood, amount of trim involved, stain or paint etc etc, you probably wouldn't want to give me an answer.
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