Topic: Great article on Babs / Bart. Paragraph 1 is me to the "T". Goes w my PCR Babs
lymetwister
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Though not all symptom pictures are "clear", the chief complaint with Babesia is generally mental or emotional. It may present as an inability to think, difficulty with focus, feeling like a nervous wreck, and being depressed. Symptoms generally are more weighted to problems from the neck up. It may impact memory and concentration. One may become lost in familiar places. Fear is a major issue with Babesia. OCD and panic disorders may be related to Babesia. Hypothalamic dysregulation causes sleep problems, temperature intolerance, night sweats, and weird dreams. Autonomic dysregulation may present as dizziness, vertigo, racing heart, tinnitus, and blurred vision. Babesia may also affect wrists, hands, ankles, and feet.
Babesia and Bartonella are almost always found together. The dominant pathogen changes from one to the other and back again. Bartonella patients complain of more pain. This may be joint pain and ice-pick headaches. There may be cognitive, memory and emotional symptoms but they are less severe than in Babesia. More lymphatic issues are often observed with Bartonella. Blurred vision may be an issue. A mild sore throat or feeling like one is just about to get a sore throat may present. Bartonella loves the stomach. It elevates liver enzymes. It produces skin rashes, striae, crusty scalp, crawling or burning sensations, and painful soles. Bartonella tends to stay more on the surface whereas Babesia gets much deeper in the body.
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Interesting. Hubby has been treating babesia forever it seems and in the update I sent to his LLMD today I made the comment that he was sleeping even better with the addition of ivermectin to his meds. He said it helped his sleep even more than lariam does.
I think this is the first time I have ever read a reference to babesia and disturbed sleep before.
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jackie51
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Good list.
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tricia386
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I always thought OCD/Anxiety was bartonella. I am so confused right now.
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Please break up paragraphs into 2-3 sentences each, as there are people on Lymenet with neurological problems who cannot read large blocks of text. Thanks.
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quote:Originally posted by tricia386: I always thought OCD/Anxiety was bartonella. I am so confused right now.
Me, too. There's sooooo much conflicting information out there, you just don't know what to believe. And if Bart and Babs are often found together, how is it even possible to know which is causing what? Posts: 1142 | From South | Registered: Dec 2010
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Hambone
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quote:Originally posted by hopingandpraying: Very informative.
Please break up paragraphs into 2-3 sentences each, as there are people on Lymenet with neurological problems who cannot read large blocks of text. Thanks.
If you click on the link, the entire article is there and it's broken up into smaller paragraphs.
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tricia386
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Oh Hambone.. UGH!
I guess just throw a bunch of pills down out throat and hope for the best )
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quote:Originally posted by tricia386: I guess just throw a bunch of pills down out throat and hope for the best )
I know! So confusing. I guess it's best to try and treat all of the infections and hope for the best. It's easy to drive yourself crazy trying to sort it all out.
That link has some good info though.. Thanks.
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