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nefferdun
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I would like more information about the F low fat, whole foods vegan diet for biofilm.

I will try to explain what I understand - correct me if I am wrong.
This diet starves the biofilm so that abx can reach the pathogens better.

Biofilm is not specific just to this new organism. All the infections can hide out in the same biofilm. So even if you do not have FL1953, you will be helped by the diet. (?)

Even if you are taking an anti-malarial drug that requires fat for better absorption, you do not need it on this diet because as the biofilm is destroyed, the abx can better reach the pathogens. Is it accurate to say babesia also hides out in biofilm? Has he seen this?

You try to limit yourself to only 10-15 grams of fat a day. There are no good fats allowed, like flax or nuts. I do not know if you can add them back in when you get better. (?)
People that stay on the diet get well and stay well. Does the diet have to be this strict for the rest of their lives?

Any information would be appreciated.

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I do not see Dr. F., and I know those that do will disagree, but anti-malaria drugs must be taken with fat.

I spoke with Dr. F's head scientist Jeremy Ellis, at Fry Labs. I asked him about taking Mepron with the protozoa and he specifically said that it must be taken with fat.

I have not heard of Dr. F. recommending Mepron since his low fat discovery, and my guess is that is why...

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nefferdun
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Thanks balileypup.

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That is not the reason why he does not use mepron. He has been liking results of the synergy of the malarone and uses that instead.

I disagree with the fact that you have to have fat. Meaning a HIGH level of Fat. Just take your malarone or mepron when you have a meal and that will be good if your taking this drug while on the lower fat diet.

You can not always have everything all at once to be perfect Do the best you can while your doing certain therapies and diets etc.

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I thought he was using Ivermectin, not malarone??
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I haven't heard him say that it would help with other bugs, but I would suspect so, as the reasoning seems sound that it would have to.

I read just recently that what he said he is seeing is that this helps some of his patients a lot, but then when they go back to regular diet, they go backwards again, and then they go back on it and get better again, and back and forth. So this isn't necessarily a really good permanent answer unless you're willing to stay on that diet. But if they are seeing symptoms worsen just on change of diet, that makes me conclude they really aren't in control of the condition, just much improved symptomwise.

So, this is not necessarily the answer, and in most cases it seems your choice is then some other treatment after this, or staying longer-term on this diet and being much better but not really over it. I really don't think that very low fat diet can lead to thriving health if done long-term, so I have gone on to other treatments after returning to eating fat.

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He does say in his interview that you must stay on a low fat plant based diet to stay in remission. He believes it is impossible to get completely rid of his new pahtogen but you can control it.

Is this the same biofilm that bartonella hides in?

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