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phyl6648
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Need your help.. I will be seeing a new doctor Mar. 7 and when I tell my symptoms I don't want to get "that look"..

This doctor is not a LLMD as I have been seeing a LLMD for over a year and she is confused because I don't seem to have the classic symptoms..

Most of my test are negative except for one positive band of Igm 18, bart and babs are negative, no co-infections etc all through Igenex.
Oh, high positive ANA, C-reactive Protein elevated.. everything else normal as I was told.

I do not have a reagular MD so going to get established, he is my husbands doctor and seems lyme friendly as I have spoken to him about me..

Ok, symptoms.. Sensitive to most meds, MCS, Crying almost everyday, ears ringing 24/7,off balance, ear aches, sinus issues, there are days I feel somewhat normal and then days its hard for me to get out of bed.. some days I feel like I am dying and can't explain how I feel
Indigestion, fatigue, chills, night sweats, insomina, ... my symptoms are like a roller coaster they come and go.. I am sure there are more but those are the biggies..
Depression and anxiety....these are biggies..
There are times I am feeling ok and try to get out and out of the blue I will have a spell and have to get home and lie down. Its not a low blood sugar attack, its like my body is shutting down..
Can not describe how I feel.. Its like all the life has been sucked out of me..

Well, if you have read this far, tks .. I need help in putting this into words for the doctor to understand..

I feel sure its lyme as my test a year ago I had a 23 Igm positive.. Have tried antibiotics but have to stop because of reactions and the one I can tk gives me horrible indigestion .. I am now on meds for that.. so hoping I can get back on abx or this doctor can help...

Thanks for any input...

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Have you looked into the mold stuff? Mold is also a neurotoxin in the 25% of people that have the genetics for it.

It can cause all of those symptoms you mentioned.

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I had horrible indigetion from lyme-I thought it was the meds-but it actually went away with treatment.

A negative test doesn't mean anything...some of your symptoms do sound like bart/babs.

Could you do a trial of A-bart or A-babs?

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Thanks RC and Beth, I have been tested for toxins,not sure about mold.. Our house doesn't have mold how do I found out about mold stuff?

I didn't have the indigestion till I tried doxy and supplements.. I went off and with mylanta the indigestion went away but took awhile.

Then started the supplements and Clindamycin and within two wks the horrible indigestion was back..

What treatments are you guys on?? Oh, Igenex tested me twice for bart and babs..

Who knows all I know is I want to begin feeling better as I can't stand me this way I feel sorry for my family...

Tks.. hope you two are immproving

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Phyl, I overlooked that you have a band 23. That they say is a positive for Lyme.
The mold thing is a series of tests for your body and your house. I think mold is a factor for a lot of us people that have Lyme. It's like another coinfection.
If you are interested in learning more read "Surviving Mold" by Dr. Richie Shoemaker.

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Were you given a trial run of meds for bart and babs to see how you react? Very common to have negative tests and still be sick.

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Are you taking a PPI for the stomach?? High quality probiotics?? GOOD DIET???

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RC, band 23 didn't show positive this last time.
Tks for the info on mold

Lymetoo was given abx not sure if it was for bart or babs.. what is PPI and I have been taking probiotics but not a good one, I don't think anyway...

Thanks for your help.

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http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=015508;p=0

Diagnosing Lyme Disease (&/or whatever else is going on)


Includes a symptom check-list; articles; consideration of differential diagnoses.

Scroll way down to TIMACA's thread on "OTHER TESTS" as her collection is very important for what else to consider, such as Cpn, HHV-6, etc.
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You need to find out, then, phyl! You really sound like you have one or more coinfections that are not showing up.

PPI's.. prilosec, nexium, etc

Get on good probiotics or you will be sorry (regarding stomach issues).

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quote:
Originally posted by phyl6648:

high positive ANA, C-reactive Protein elevated..

Ok, symptoms.. Sensitive to most meds,
MCS,
Crying almost everyday,
ears ringing 24/7,
off balance,
ear aches,
sinus issues,
some days I feel like I am dying and can't explain how I feel
Indigestion,
fatigue,
chills,
night sweats,
insomina,
Depression and anxiety....these are biggies..

out of the blue I will have a spell and have to get home and lie down.


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Yeah, it's probably Lyme, but you can do things to reduce some of your symptoms.

The elevated C-reactive protein shows that you have systemic (bodywide) inflammation, which is the body's immune response to infection.

There are medications like Naltrexone that reduce inflammmation, and also a number of foods and over the counter supplements that help.

Systemic enzymes are prescribed by physicians in Europe and are available over the counter in the U.S.
Taken in high enough doses, they can clear up sinus issues, reduce inner ear problems and headaches, and relieve body and joint pain.

How Systemic Enzymes Work
http://www.newswithviews.com/Howenstine/james174.htm


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Two other supplements that reduce inflammation are magnesium and fish oil.

Lyme causes low magnesium, which causes many symptoms like anxiety, depression, insomnia, fatigue.
http://www.mbschachter.com/importance_of_magnesium_to_human.htm


Fish oil is a source of Omega 3's, which reduce inflammation and improve bloodflow to the brain and the body.

I have been taking fish oil with a high ratio of EPA, and I notice the headaches and aches and pains are less when I am on it, and get worse when I go off.
The same with systemic enzymes...when I ran out, the pain became miserable.


Antioxidants reduce inflammation.
Fresh fruits and vegetables are good sources and you can get many supplements too.

The night sweats sound like Babesia, which many here can advise you on.
You might have a strain of it that the labs cannot test for.

So, you have four weeks before your doctor appointment.
That's enough time to try magnesium and fish oil and see which symptoms improve.

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Thanks Carol and Lymetoo, I am taking PPI for the indigestion.. along with mylanta till it kicks in. Carol before the indigestion got so bad I was taking fish oil, magnesium, d3, b12,
vit.c and more. Its when I start all these supplements the indigestion gets bad.

Maybe the PPI will help and getting a better probotic.. Then will start back on one or two supplement at a time .. Till I see the doctor..

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Lipo-Flavonoid Plus
http://www.amazon.com/Lipoflavonoid-Plus-100-Caplets/dp/B00117U6LE/

Improve circulation in the inner ear
Recommended by ear doctors as a nutritional supplement to their patients with Menieres Disease

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Anyone who is uncertain about their lyme diagnosis ought to consider investing in the new culture test.
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Night sweats, anxiety, off-balance are classic symptoms for babesia. The list reads to me more like babs than lyme, though it's entirely possible you have both.

As others have said, don't let the negative test results stop you - there are like 20 species of babs and only tests for two.

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FWIW... I can't tolerate Vit C .. at all. I noticed that is one thing you added.

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It could be a terrible sinus infection......

I had most symptoms..they saw nothing in blood or x=ray',small cloudy spot. Off hand ENT mentioned flush, then said no,,,


Kept asking doctor to FLUSH sinuses, it was done ,reluctantly by a ENT 30 years ago..and after that I wasn't sick for 8 years..
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Fast forward,,,in the middle of this being ill and nobody knowing what was going on...except for usual story,head

I had more sinus issues,,,kept asking for another flush, nothing was showing in blood or x-ray,,,,but symptoms etc there
She finally OK'd surgery for deviated septum and to take a look

She found three BAD infections in my sinuses . Had to scrape inside cheeks etc....some in forhead between brows.

That was 08 , a few years into sickness.... but that part was better.

Also ,when this happened she put me on Doxy.. I called said didn't seem like kicking in,,she then did Rifampin..

So out of the blue I did a bit of Doxy then Rifampin real close ..In 24 hours I could feel the old normal coming back....

That's when I KNEW something was going on that had a cure .....then finally THIS Aug. was diagnosed LD and Co's,

I was so hoping not ,but a least there was a name....many wrong medical thing's had been been done

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I have seen an ENT many times and each time he says Sinus Infection , Bacterial even though my test and x rays are all negative..

He wanted me on 3 months of Clindamycin and honestly after the 4th day I began to feel better but then the indigesstion set in.

I think if I could have stayed on it well maybe ??

Oh I do remember the llmd said I did have some type of infection but she didn't know what kind...

Hoping the new doctor will at least work with me.

Tks,,

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p.s. I notice my head symptoms are always worse when the weather is going to change, rain/snow etc..

I do have a tooth that I had a root canal on it was after that my symptoms seem to get worse but the dentist says the tooth is ok.. Guess I am grasping at straws..

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Your life depends on a clinical diagnosis. Blood tests are worthless for the most part. I would say you have the classic three: Babs, Bart, Lyme. It's possible you have mycoplasma and brucella too. But, I have no idea of your health and family history, so I'm just guessing based on the symptoms.
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I am a Pharmacist and if you have never been instructed about the nighttime dose of medication, you should not take Clindamycin, Doxycycline, or Metronidazole within 1 hour of lying down. It increases the likelyhood of developing of gastritis.
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poppy, What is the new culture test?
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lyme-o,

What Poppy mentioned above --

Detail about that new Borrelia Culture Test here:

http://betterhealthguy.com/joomla/lyme-disease/testing

Testing options - See #15


http://betterhealthguy.com/joomla/blog/248-new-borrelia-culture-test-available

and

http://www.researchednutritionals.com/information.cfm?ID=255
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Thanks Keebler
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Thanks to each for all your help..

Vipermom, tks. I always sit up an hour or so after taking any meds or eating ..

Still feeling crazy in the head, its like it comes on all of a sudden I wish I could describe it .. I woke up this morning thinking its not going to be a bad day . Up about an hour and then wham, the head feeling, weakness as if I don't lie down I am going to fall down. Lying down helps some .. Ck b/s and b/p all ok.. I so wish I could figure out the head thing..

I went with hubby yesterday for his cardic rehab and a class.. Fixed dinner and had a good day and evening.. Well, for me that is. That is why my family doesn't get it.. Up one day and down the next.. Well neither do I..


Sure hope the new doctor can help..

Will let you know

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A visual acuity test you can take online for mold. Mold isn't the only reason one might fail it however. Can just be neurological lyme.

http://www.survivingmold.com/store1/online-screening-test

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