lyme in Putnam
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Anyone treat bart with andreographis and reservetrol extra (japanese knotwood). Heard of it, but not sure if it does. Did anyone do this? Only for 10 days, but mixed with low salt put me not in a good place.
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canefan17
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Those 2 didn't touch Bart for me
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lyme in Putnam
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Did you herx? Im on rocephin and zithro and those made me horrible
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me neither...I don't think its to be used as a killing protocol. Its one of the Buhner's herbs though so look it up on his site/ book for more info.
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nonna05
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somebody on here a lot ,just posted that after the knotwood it took two or more years to get back to where they were before it..
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Razzle
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Nonna,
That was me. Yes, I tried Buhner's protocol and I was ok with the Andrographis and Cat's Claw, but when I added the Japanese Knotweed, I herxed so hard it put me in the hospital.
It took about 3 1/2 years to recover and get off the IV support necessary to stay alive.
So if you try the Japanese Knotweed, be very careful. Proceed slowly.
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Razzle, how long had you been taking the Japanese knotweed when you were hospitalized? Did this happen immediately after your first dose of knotweed or was it a cumulative effect?
I am sorry that happened to you! I have been thinking of trying the Buhner protocol but that is soo scary. I have taken knotweed only once and the next day I could barely talk for a few hours, thankfully it wore off quickly.
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lyme in Putnam
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All this is unknown territory. Just found outi have one copy of 677Tand 1298C MTHFR gene. Probably wrong letters after numbers but have them. I hopeyoure better razzle. This is so sick.
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canefan17
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Here are my thoughts on Knotweed.
Knotweed helps micro-circulation (big time) and can really stir up (often counters too) pathogens like Bart.
It helps carry other anti-microbials where they need to go. It can block some of Bartonella's "defense mechanisms" (think inflammation and endothelial cells)
It took me awhile to realize that Knotweed was simply stirring up Bartonella and not killing it.
Add some good anti-microbials with knotweed and you've got a great combo.
Stephania Rt is an amazing immune modulator and has helped me with inflammation big time.
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gigimac
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Canefan, what would you consider good anti-microbials? Maybe olive leaf?
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canefan17
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Sure that's one (though not the greatest for Bart)
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