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tickled1
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At my last appointment my LLMD told me I am very toxic and that I should do coffee enemas and liver flushes.

After reading the instructions and what is involved I don't think I can bring myself to do them.

Furthermore, I fear I would react to the epsom salt in the flush.

Does anyone know of anything else that would be equally effective?

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Fiber, water, antioxidant rich foods, gentle exercise that allows your GI tract to get a work out.

You want to get to where the bowels move well 2 - 3 times a day. You need food for that to happen. Good food. But, also FIBER can come from psyllium, etc. HEMP protein powder and CHIA SEEDS are best. IMO.

Exercises that will help your colon: Yoga, Pilates, Tai Chi, QiGong, Walking.

I would NEVER consume Epsom Salts. NEVER. That could destroy the lining to your esophagus. (I know because I tried that once when I ran out of magnesium. Big mistake for my innards.)

There are different magnesium preparations and some are more caustic than others.

Those that you'd take before a medical procedure can be rougher but also that's been processed so that it would not be quite as caustic as if you tried to dissolve epsom salt crystals. The crystals just won't dissolve well enough.

A good kind of magnesium supplement can be very kind to your body, though, and help your colon.

I assume you take a supplement?

Liver support, too, is good.

You might consult a LL ND.

Still, for occasional use, a coffee enema can be very helpful immediately. Just take it step by step.
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I'm starting to wonder about my LLMD's suggestions. NOTHING he has mentioned has turned out good for me. I can't tolerate anything he has recommended including chlorella which I had a horrible reaction to.

Couldn't tolerate cholestyramine either. I have been seeing him for a year. I hear from other that he is very good. He is incredibly knowledgeable but my husband is tired of everything he recommends making me so sick and then the products sitting in the cabinet.

At the latest appt. though he did tell me I have MTHFR. "2, C copies". He also identified KPU. Thing is I have to go super slow with everything I do/take b/c I am so sensitive and react so severely to everything. I am really scared to try the enemas and flushes b/c of how I've reacted to things in the past.

What kind of fiber do you recommend Keebler? I can't tolerate gluten. LLMD wants me to start "Hepatone" by Designs for Health for liver support. Are you familiar with that product. I do take Magnesium. Magnesium Glycinate.

My latest plan of attack and all I think I can handle is:

Lots of water

Avoid gluten, dairy, sugar

More veggies, some fruits

Gentle exercise

More sleep

Hepatone

B Supreme for MTHFR

Digestzymes

Magnesium Glycinate

Continue Tirosint

IV Glutathione

D Lactate free Probiotics

S. Boulardi


Then eventually:

Address KPU

Treat possible parasites

Target yeast

Address metals

Identify and treat remaining infections when I'm strong enough and can tolerate it.

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If you want to flush out your liver there is a very effective herb that I have used on hubby. An herbalist prescribed it for him. We used to use it on a regular basis but had dropped it from his protocol. Recently his bilirubin had been getting more and more elevated and his liver enzymes were going up and down -- even while he was off meds.

So I added back the celandine. It has taken me a couple of weeks to see what dose he needs right now. Currently he is taking 30 drops (1 dropper) of celandine tincture 2 times daily. His bilirubin has gone back to normal and so have his liver enzymes even though he has added back mega doses of meds. Actually his bloodwork is the best it has been in over a year but he sure feels awful from the babesia.

Actually I think the herb was so successful it may have flushed some babs out of his liver and resulted in his symptom relapse.

Celandine is a very strong herb but it is not nearly as toxic as some literature claims. Hubby's herbalist suggested he could take up to twice the dose he is currently taking.

I would probably start with 3 - 5 drops if you have never taken the herb before and work up from there. You probably will not notice any effects except for more bowel movements and possibly results from whatever toxins are released. So binders may be needed.

Herb Pharm and Eclectic Institute both make the tincture.

This is not medical advice, just my opinion based on hubby's experiences.

Bea Seibert

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manybites, how do you know they were sacks of borrelia?

P.S. I tried to reply to your PM's but your mailbox is full.

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