Topic: All I do is Suffer, I can't get at any of this, So Discouraged !!!
lymetwister
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I have no idea what to treat anymore. Every single time now, and that would be about 5 or 6 times over the past few years, that I try to take Mepron/Z-max, I get such severe Brain Herxing or whatever you want to call it.
It's not a true Anxiety, My Central Nervous System goes Crazy. I Cry 20 times a day like a child. This happens at around days 10-12. I hold the meds and it continues on for another week or so.
I try and restart the meds at 1/2 the dose, so I go a little longer, but then the same thing happens. My LLMD says I'm hitting it, but I CAN'T live this way. I have bad Hypoperfusion in the brain, Severe Autonomic Dysfunction to start with and the dreaded HLA-DR Genotype.
When I try other ways to get babs, whether it be Salt/c, Rife, Herbs specific for Babs, the same things happen.
When I hold the meds, anything I killed just reproduces, so I'm just spinning wheels. I'm raising my 2 kids by myself and whatever this is i.e. Encephalitis, Toxins, Inflammation, the Infections, or all of this, is NOT compatible with raising children. If I were all alone, I probably wouldn't even be here right now.
I am being tortured with these symptoms. Psych meds don't even begin to touch what I'm feeling. Xanax might as well be a sugar pill. My Dr. doesn't know what to do with me other then tell me to start even lower.
I'm 5 years into this crap and when I'm not Herxing, I can get out and do some stuff with my kids, not much, but at least something.
I do searches on here for some of my symptoms and my same posts pop up on here I posted 3 years ago complaining about the very same stuff.
As soon as I wake up ever single morning, my right eye begins to swell up and I'm shaking all over the place from a sound sleep. I'm freezing cold from changing body positions out of bed. I literally can't talk to anyone for almost 45 min. out of bed b/c my CNS is going nuts.
I never had night sweats at all. I'm PCR pos. for Babs. I see it in my blood, but it's not all over the place like one would think it should be based on my symptoms.
So, what else could be causing this ? Sometimes I think the Toxicity of the drug itself might be causing some of my symptoms and I'm not even killing any Babesia.
But then again, when I use Rife for Babs frequencies, the same thing happens.
So, again, I've tried Herbs and every alternative thing one can do. Most of my discomfort is in the head other then the tachycardia and shortness of breath. I ache in large muscle groups.
When I read symptom lists, I seem to have from all 3 major infections. My heels hurt from standing too long, but not first thing in the morning. Guidelines say when Neuro stuff is excessive, think Bartonella. But why would Babs treatment flare Bartonella ?
Lately, I'm really losing hope that I will ever get well. I don't have a clue as to where to go from here. I'm scared to take anything that would "Kill" right now as I'm one step away from the Hospital where I am right now.
I will get replies suggesting I should treat heavy metals, or that it's parasites in my intestines, etc. It's all conjecture as far as I'm concerned. I've had every test known to man. The only thing that shows positive is the Babs right now.
I have Vitiligo too, which I know some others have had and I've read that Bart can cause skin discoloration, so not sure if this is significant.
I stained my blood and had to scan the slide very very hard and long to find the picture below. I'm not even sure what I'm looking at is Babs. Could be artifact.
My LLMD doesn't know what to do with me. Very very lost.
I havn't had a "Good" day in forever. Some of you that herx on a schedule report good days in between. I have NONE. Just b/c I can sit in friendly's restaurant with my kids is only b/c I push myself. I never truly enjoy anything anymore. I also know if I do nothing, this will never go away and I might get worse.
Sorry so long, but I am so frustrated right now and need some direction.
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First, let me say that I understand your frustration. I have had babs/hemobart/lyme/mycoplasma too for the past 4 years and have been treating nonstop.
When I don't see progress, which means to me that when I don't herx then I switch up my protocol so I continue to herx because when I am herxing then I know I am killing this stuff.
If I don't herx then I worry because I don't think I'm killing any bugs.
But when I read your posts, I see a pattern. You always bail out of your treatment when you are herxing. You can't get better if you don't kill these bugs and if you are herxing then you are killing them.
I have read some of your posts about being confused on whether the meds are causing the sympotoms or if it's herxing, but the thing is you just need to follow some course and see it through - herxing and all.
I have the mthrftr gene too but I do not react to meds the way you describe that you do, so I am not sure your reaction is a lack of detoxing as much as it is a herx.
My advice to you is to get help with the kids and get through the herxing without giving into these bugs! They are going to fight you on this because they want to survive!
When you get the load down then the herxing will get easier, but you have to get through the tough part first! Everytime you back off you are taking one step forward and two steps back!
Keep going forward! Change the way you are thinking about this and look at it as a fight for your body and don't let them win!!!
Ask God for help too. He has been my strength through this and I believe He will get me through this and He will get you through this too if you let Him.
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The other factor is my Immune Response, which many don't take into account. I have an overactive immune system, or so it appears.
My Cytokine levels are astronomical when I have run those tests and although they are non-specific to say the brain, they are certainly outrageously elevated.
My sedimentation rate was 45 range 0-15 with this latest Herx which is indicative of inflammation.
I really don't know what is going on, but even if I had help with my kids, I can't lay in bed all day for 2 years rolling all about the bed. My symptoms do not allow me to sleep during the day.
I definitely have a unique set of symptoms from what I can see compared to others posts and I fear this is going to kill me, literally.
Have you ever heard of Mustard gas as a chemical agent that attacks the Nervous system. I feel like this weapon is being used against me in all of this in addition to lots of other things.......
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Physical pain is not my issue, although I do have alot of head pain. I don't have joint pain either. Just about every symptom is in my Head.
And... Although that picture above is my blood, again, I can't say for sure what I am seeing and if in fact the stain is Artifact or Babs, Bart, etc. It was only in one are of the slide and the rest of the slide was clean. I'm not a microbiologist and I'm an amateur at best at making blood smears/stains.
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I don't know much medical wise just illness and frustration. Just gotta keep trying for answers. You know much, it's just getting relief you need. It's painful, just have to trust something and someone higher than us.
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I am! you definitely have malaria like ring forms, babesia and dark stained blebs,- bartonella, the small forms in between the cells look like maybe yeast and or platelets. what has your HGB and HCT been running? your RBC look like "donut holes".
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Possibly to assist with the inflammation, you can add some natural anti-inflammatory supplements. High dose turmeric and huge amounts of fish oil might help, while you are killing the bugs.
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Oh by the way, all of my symptoms are head/neck symptoms too and drenching sweats! In fact, I've often thought that I would feel much better if I could just chop off my head and neck.
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Gary, have you ever tested for mycotoxins from mold. Many Lyme symptoms are the same as mold mycotoxin symptoms.
A $ 699.00 ( I know expensive) test would tell you if you have mycotoxins in your body. If you do, then you are being exposed to mold.
If you are living with mold in your home and it doesn't have to be visable, you will never get well if mold is poisoning your body.
I know I've been through this. I was fortunate that I had a doctor who picked this up when I was not progressing with my TBD treatment as I should have been.
Having the HLA-DR dreaded gene would make it worse if you had mold poisoning. I also have it and am a universally slow detoxer.
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I think you mentioned recently that you were planning to switch to malarone instead of mepron. I think you should go for it. Obviously malarone and zithromax are not the answer for everyone -- there are other babesia drugs. There is of course very little if any medical literature to support the use of them for babesia though.
Other choices besides mepron and zithromax -- quinine and clindamycin, lariam, artemesia and derivatives including artemisinin, artesunate and coartem.
Antifolate meds such as bactrim and daraprim.
Parasite meds such as flagyl, alinia and ivermectin.
Other possibly helpful meds -- diflucan, cipro and rifampin.
Yes -- I just found a new pubmed article discussing the use of cipro and rifampin for babesia.
I am no microbiologist either but your slide does appear to have at least one classical ring form of babesia. I just discussed this issue with hubby's LLMD last week. His live blood analysis showed only 2 ring forms of babesia. The nutritionist who did the test stated that they did not know if that was enough to make a person symptomatic.
Hubby's LLMD said even one infected cell on a slide was too many in their opinion. Of course the IDSA requires 3 infected blood cells per slide to consider a person as positive for babesia.
But in France you could end up hospitalized with babesia symptoms and the parasite infection rate could be as low as .23% or .29% - that is less than 1 percent.
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Hi there, I also want to encourage you to try to get through it...I don't want to compare my suffering to yours, but at the beginning of my treatment, I had those horrible days. Could not leave the house for a week due to anxiety and many other stuff. I can only tell you that the worst die-off symptoms will not last too long. After a week, it will still be bad, but not as much as in the beginning. What about Tavor? you could take up to 3 pills a day during these tough days. In german there is a proverb saying "better a dreadful end than dreading with no end".
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Here is Another Shot from the Microscope: Sure looks like a duck, but how can the "lack of large numbers" cause such horrendous symptoms ?
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That looks like large numbers to me.
You can't keep doing the same thing over and over expecting different results. That is the definition of insanity. Start somewhere else.
How is your sleep? If it is just babesia then you would be oversleeping. If you also have bartonella and/or protomxzoa then insomnia would be an issue. There are things you can do to weaken the infections that will not cause a huge herx.
Getting after the biofilm that harbors the pathogens will help. Just changing to a low fat vegan whole foods diet made a huge difference for me. It is slow and easy, nothing dramatic to send you plunging into chaos.
Don't worry about fat requirements for mepron/malarone. Fat feeds the biofilm that protects the pathogens so more of the medication will be able to reach babesia when the biofilm is broken down. You must stick to less than 15 grams of fat a day.
Taking Lumbrokinase/boluoke will also help thin the blood to help reduce biofilm. You could start with heparin shots if you want a heat start. You have to address everything, not just what you feel like doing. Diet, the right supplements etc are very important.
If you have methyl cycle mutations addressing those will help you detox better and also help with the hypercoagulation. Even if you can't afford the tests take the supplements and follow the diet protocol. If you have any trouble with sulfur stay away form foods and supplements that have it.
The diet recommendation for CBS positive people (90% have it) is vegan. When you eat protein your body makes too much ammonia. This in itself can cause a lot of your symptoms. Taking yucca will help clear it out but diet is critical. Read about how this mutation causes excitotoxins that put you into overdrive and can lead to psychological, neurological disease. Take GABA.
Iron feeds babesia which is another good reason to avoid meat. You can reduce the free floating iron in your blood with IP-6. This will weaken the babesia.
Try addressing the Fry bug, protomxzoa, which could be the basis of your problem. Get on the diet for a few weeks. Then see how ivermectin affects you. If you can knock that bug down first and the biofilm it builds, you might be better able to tolerate the anti-malarial drugs and they would certainly be more effective.
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Just a quick question other than a low fat vegan diet what else can be taken to reduce biofilms?
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other biofilm busters
- cistus incanus tea - enzymes such as serrapeptase - Detoxamin suppositories pull calcium and metals from biofilm - some think garlic extract
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So I actually just found a bottle of seropeptase I had do most take this for biofilms?
How well does this work for biofilm breakdown?
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I say, try one Ivermectin tablet (or even less like 1/2) and see what happens. The swelling eye makes me think of parasites. I have a problem with my right eye, once Ivermectin absorbed into my body, my eye started twitching and swelling like crazy. No antibiotic did that. This is only one symptom among many that I now relate to parasites. These parasites are in my blood not my GI tract, so over the counter parasite cleanses did not have this effect.
Yep. I guess I have jumped on the parasite bandwagon. It's worth a try.
Hang in there. I knwo that this is so difficult when you are on your own.
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I hear a lot about ivermectin and parasite treatment, so wondering if everyone is getting ivermectin from their LLMD doctors? Also, how do you know how much to take?
When you post your slides, I do not see a little bit of an infection, but instead I see a lot of infection. Your slides don't look like mine.
I have a chiropractor who does dark microscopy and had my blood looked at under the microscope and we had to look for babesia and hemobartonella. Mine are more spread out and most of my red blood cells might have one or two on them, not clusters of them all over the place.
I don't mean to scare you, but I do think it's time you stick to a treatment - herxing and all to bring your load down. Set your anxiety aside and while it is helpful to be in the medical field - I think it is to your detriment that you are in the medical field also. I think it's time to stop analyzing everything and just start treating and sticking with a treatment. Don't overthink it all, just trust in the treatments that are available and be thankful there are treatments available.
When you find yourself herxing and freaking out over the herx - remind yourself that it has to happen in order to get over to the other side (being well) then when you do start to feel better, you will be able to give the kids the quality time that you wish to do now.
Also, include God in your healing journey because He will get you through the rough times when you can't.
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I appreciate the advice from everyone, but my problem is that when I Herx, if I don't hold, I WILL WIND UP IN A PSYCH WARD...
There is no question about it... Even worse, I could have my kids taken from me.
I guess the worst is that I would be Dead, but any of these things could happen.
My brain goes crazy and my central nervous system as well. My Autonomic Dysfunction, not just the POTS, but all of the Dysautonomia, goes Bananas. I'm talking all day heart attack sensations, dysregulated breathing all day, Pathetic 2 y.o. crying not just here and there but constantly all day long. It's just not compatible with life.
This is coming from a State Wrestling Champion. I am a tough cookie. Was a weightlifter 5 days a week bench pressing 350 pounds at just 180 pounds. I'm the same guy that put my own IV Catheters in my arm when my Insurance wouldn't pay for a nurse to come out and change my IV. This was the only way I could get my IV meds when I first started before I had my PICC.
It's kind of like we tell people that don't have Lyme and don't get our suffering.
This is beyond comprehension what I go through and there is NO Pushing through it.
I don't know what to do, honestly !!!
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Sending thoughts and prayers Gary....be a had some good advice and I know some of the meeds you have not been on yet. The daraprim, rifampin, etc. I wonder what your llmd would feel about using one The meds BEa recommended .
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Gary .............Are you on any psych meds????
Or some time during this illness pulled off of them? Aderall? Fentynil sp? sorry
Is there blatant ,obvious mold were you are?
Not saying you should go get on some .....
I'm so sorry about the spelling etc...
My brother ,who lived in AR, was put on meds that messed him up bad ,but he got off them the hard way..
When he got sick, very similar symptom's to mine , It was like the brain was just having a circus with him.
He had the mental stuff just slam him. I think it had to do with what he had been on and then the major stresses that happened at same time.
He lived in the hills ,by the Beaver Lake ,there was mold for sure,.
The other thing was having trouble with mice....
They can carry something that of course makes you ill ,but really jacks with the brain.
He was a total different person within a year and was doing major suffering. He knew he was not insane and that whatever was causing the illness was hitting the brain and nerves bad.
I was doing self treatment for me ,but still going through a lot. He on the other hand would start something to try and help and than get a good day or two and stop. He drank and smoked, all this time we didn't know either one of us had LD and CO's
Our Mother had died in May and by Nov. I was in hospital starting the 20 doctor routine, He was starting to get ill also.
He had also been to China , in the back hills, were people sometimes don;t get out,.
Can you see that there is a history of out of backyard exposure and circumstances that you'd not normally think about.
I also have trouble with some generics because of the fillers they use.
HE IS GONE AT 52,,,,,,,,,I was to sick to get to him there..When he was here we had him on minimal treatment and he would perk up and come around mentally.
Then stop and go down hill fast.
You know part of what you have ,,, I take it you have resources to get some treatment.
Do you have family to watch kids a few days and then a buddy or friend to hang with you a few days ..To try and start adding meds .
Can you sit with a bottle of non -alcohol Parsley and just keep putting drops in, lemon water, flavored coconut water? Packets of Lip C 1000 or two at a time..Potasium ..Testo
It is so horrible to go through this.. Even worse to be able to explain it..
Ask your LLMD for options, Really that's kinda silly, I'm sure you have.
Herxing to strongly is not safe..Are there any LLmd Pshyc's
I'm not a doctor. I'm going through my own H---. I can hear my brother through your tears
BUT I know what happens if you don't stick with it.. .
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Gary, Have you looked into taking LDN? It is supposed to help with inflammation and I heard it's helpful for improving mood.
It might be worth a try.
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Psych meds don't really help me. Been there tried many of them. They sedate my head, but the Peripheral Nervous system goes unaffected.
I have tons of Blood Flow issues in the Brain. I can feel it. Not so sure how much Toxins are creating symptoms vs. Inflammation. Could be both.
I don't have mold in my home either. I can't afford $699 for a test either. And even if I had the money and it came back positive, I wouldn't know what to do. Only a handful of Dr.'s that even address mold.
I've tried LDN, but it doesn't do anything for me.
I'm gonna keep going, but Sloooowwwwww. I'm not Crying like I was, so things are settling down thank god.
Weird b/c I'm not taking anything, yet I'm feeling freezing cold to the bone as if I'm herxing and still with low grade temps 99.5 or so most of the day.
So much Autonomic Dysfunction/Dysautonomia..
Long way to go after this all began 5 years ago.
Funny thing is that first symptom was jacked up Nervous system stuff that mimicked Anxiety. Psych Docs said something else was causing this back then when I didn't have a single head symptom. Was told it was Babs from first LLMD.
Amazing how mainstream Medicine won't help...
I'd love an Intrathecal cathether in the Spinal Canal with Abx going up that way to the brain.
Again, thanks for the support and suggestions.. Until I can get some of this figured out, I'm gonna go slow on a few meds.
I really think I'm having Cytokine Storm more then anything.
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Feeling cold is one symptom of protomyxzoa, especially cold hands and feet. Some of the other symptoms more specific to it are voice becoming hoarse now and then with nasal congestion, profound fatigue,headaches behind the eyes, insomnia, heart palpitations, anxiety, abdominal pain, tooth pain etc.
There are simple things you can do. Change your diet to low fat vegan and see if that helps you. I have greatly improved just on the diet in only two months. As it is a healthy diet, it sure won't hurt you.
If LDN was not a drug you were having trouble tolerating, keep taking it. You can mix it yourself to save money. It will boost your immune system and also help with the depression but it takes a few weeks to do that. It is used for psych disorders like autism, bi-polar, depression and even brain damage.
Stop doing the same thing over and over expecting different results. I kept treating babesia and was not responding. THen I could not tolerate the drugs at all. I was terrified it was over for me - I mean literally I was going to die.
Now I am ok. I am not even taking any drugs except the LDN and occasionally stromectol (ivermectin). You need a new approach.
As 90% of us are testing positive for protomyxzoa you almost certainly have it. This is something you can address. It could be the underlying reason you can't respond so start here and see what happens.
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I can't really process all of what is written here. I am very impressed that you are able to post your blood smears (if that is the correct terminology)
I just want to say two things.
First, I totally empathize with you regarding child care. I am not a single parent but still have to be a functional non-psychotic parent. I would never want to be so angry because of herxing that I wasn't myself. You are in a really tough spot.
I have all neuro symptoms too. It is just so frustrating. I find that cranial sacral therapy helps, especially if they work on my head. BUT it doesn't work in and of itself. It helps me feel a little bit better and I feel like it helps the antibiotics work better. It also helps lymph flow and detox which I feel make herxers worse if things are not moving. Have you tried this? For me it is an important piece of the puzzle.
Do you completely trust your LLMD? He or she should be making these decisions with you. It is tough to process all of what needs to be done and based on your symptoms they need to problem solve with you.
Have you ever seen another or gotten a second opinion?
Hope this helps a little, even if it is to know someone out there knows how difficult it is to be treating Lyme and being a parent. The guilt alone is killer and the energy it takes to pretend to feel ok sets us back incredibly. I hope you have someone who can help on a regular basis.
Hang in there.
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Making another blood smear now. Will post if I find more.....
I will try the LDN and get back on a better diet. I did Paleo for a while and I only seemed to get worse.
I started back on Doxy 100mg 2 x day to see if I herx from this, as maybe the Lyme is whats making me so ill. If I Herx from this, then I guess I have all 3 infections and then have to figure out which one to treat first.
I would have though the year of IV Rocephin / Z-max and other drugs that were added would have taken care of the Lyme. Again, I never ached in my joints and even through Igenix my Lyme testing wasn't impressive. Just an IND and one + on 39 and 41 bands. So, I really thought it was Babs all of this time.
My immune system is either overactive or doesn't work. I would think the daily low grade fevers would be an immune response. Who knows ???
I will say that 2 days on the Doxy and my head pain is worse then ever. I've been freezing cold to the bone, increased head pain, and now terrible neck pain/spine pain on just these 2 days of Doxy. I'm not Crying though and Anxiety is a bit better. More time will tell.
Gary
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Sorry, Gary, for your suffering. It is a miserable hell to live like that.
Like others have suggested, have you tried Ivermectin?
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Gary, sorry to hear about your suffering and I know the feeling.
My only and biggest symptoms started in my head and neck. �They were so severe, that I could not walk very far. �I had to be reclined or laying down. �I lay in bed numb from the pain, that nothing made go away, and contemplating that no sane person could possibly go on like this. �I could not even stand up very long to take a shower.
2-3 weeks of IV Rocephin got me to 90%, but I gradually got more and more symptoms thereafter. �Even with the addition of Zithro, and then Biaxin and Mepron I was getting worst. �I was getting new symptoms every week. �Never any real herx, only worst within weeks and �the months to come. �I was declining by the day and I felt my neck very tight and my head and neck on fire.�
My neck was so stiff that I could not turn my head much. �I felt that I had a blocked vein from my neck to my head. �When I changed from Rocephin to Ceftin (wih Biaxin and Mepron) same results. �Then I was given Doxy 300MG TID and Biaxin 500MG BID only.
At first I was feeling WORST by day 2-3 and even worst by day 4-5. �I was just about ready to give up, since all my head and neck issues got worst. �I thought that I was on a rapid decline, but I knew that Doxy increases intercranial pressure, so I stuck with it. �After week 2 and into week 3 my head/neck issues started to taper off. �I was on this combo for about 2 months and by the end of it less head and neck issues than with IV Rocephin.
Far from cured and stuck with new symptoms since Rocephin, but I could finally sleep without unbearable pain to my head and neck. �After the 2 months I ran out of Biaxin and the pharmacy was out of stock due to a shortage, so I was forced to change. �For 1 1/2 week I was on Doxy alone , and felt my head and neck symptoms returning in the same order at which they had melted away.
Since that time I have tried Bactrim DS, Tindimax, Amoxi with probenecid, Flagyl (in combos) and nothing was as effective as the combo of Doxy with Biaxin for the head and neck issues and issues in general. �Tinnitus and TMJ that I developed from Rocephin combos were the only symptoms not improved by Doxy/Biaxin. � Rocephin got me up from the grave, but was short lived, which I believe is due to the Spiro's converting to cysts and being spread everywhere throughout my body and at the same time lowering my immunity.
I have discovered one secret to finding BB in my blood and that is to let the smear sit for a while. �Create a smear that is not too wet or dry, where you can see bacteria swimming between the RBC's (if they were present). �Make sure to spread your oil immersion over your cover slip entirely. �This way it creates a vacuumed seal and your blood survives for a longer period of time. �Do NOT use any stains.
Look at the smear at 4hr, 12, 24 hr intervals for the next 3-4 days. �I am able to see BB after 3-4hrs. �There are a number of bacteria that leave the RBC's over time and can be seen dancing in the plasma. �You may find, as I have, BB in various stages of attempting to exit the RBC's. �The more time passes the more dancing cocci like artifacts and BB exit the cells and enter the surrounding fluid. �BB seems to go on the decline by day 3-4, maybe converting to cysts due to changed blood conditions?
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So sorry for your suffering, Gary. Most of my symptoms have been neuro - head symptoms. I have had constant buzzing and vibrating sensations in my head and extremities that seems worse when I am resting.
Tinnitus has been a nightmare, but slowly improving. Sleep has been difficult and I remember when I would cry at the drop of a hat. My mood was very unstable until I took LITHIUM OROTATE.
Have you tried this? It has been a life saver for me. It is very inexpensive and it is neuro-protective. It will protect your brain from the awful toxins that are likely circulating around in your brain and nervous system.
Iherb.com sells 2 - 3 months supply for $12. Taking 5 mg 3 x day will help your mood and brain in a big way.
I hope it will help get you through this. I am also taking doxy 100 mg 3 x day and rifampin 300 mg 2 x day. This combo seems to be helping my head symptoms.
Please hang in there and feel free to PM me if you have any questions about my treatment.
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