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CherylSue
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What has worked for you in clearing mycoplasma pneu.? My titers have come down after a year on lauricidin and doxycyline, but they need to come down further.

Has anyone had success with this? How long did it take?

Thanks for your input.

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Mine responded very well to about five months of Doxycycline but I don't think it was enough, I need to get my titers checked again

Sorry I'm not of more help [Frown]

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Lyme since '06 | Bartonella since '08 (cured) | Mycoplasma pneumoniae since '08
IGeneX: IgM 31IND 34IND 41+ | IgG 39IND 58+ 41+++
IgG deficiencies and MTHFR 677TT mutations

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I'd like to know what others say about this too. My son just started treatment for it about 4 weeks ago and I'm wondering what to expect, how long etc.
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CherylSue
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I've been on doxycyline off and on, but even though my titers have come down, I still have it. So does hubby, so we are going to try doxy together.

I with I could tolerate zith, because that is supposed to help, too.

Anybody have success with olive leaf extract?

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My titers went down with 6 months of Doxy.
But now my 7 yr old tested positive for it and he can't have Doxy. Is there something else we can use for him? If not abx, something herbal?

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interested in this also as my daughter has this and can not take Doxy.
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www.immed.org

The Institute for Molecular Medicine

A nonprofit institute dedicated to discovering new diagnostic and therapeutic solutions for chronic mycoplasma infections.

The collected works of the dedicated mycoplasma researcher/author, Garth Nicolson, Ph.D.
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Link to Buhner's herbal protocol for mycoplasma. Have not tried this, but sounds good.

http://planetthrive.com/2010/10/mycoplasma-treatments/

As for meds -- I have always been under the impression that meds used to treat bart also treat mycoplasma -- cipro, levaquin, factive, rifampin

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I went to the urgent care and the doc there said I have myco pneumonia.

He said that biaxin works for it.

Anyone try that?

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Janice, there are strains of Mycoplasma in which Macrolide Abx (Biaxin, Zithromax, etc.) are useless. Many docs aren't smart enough to understand that. [Frown] For those Minocin is a better choice and possibly even Levaquin.
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I'm jsut copy pasting what Buhner wrote:

Stephen's response:
Here is what I would suggest for treating mycoplasma:

Serrapeptase: 1 capsule daily on empty stomach - this will help break the mycoplasma cell walls open and make them more vulnerable to the herbs.

Raintree Nutrition Myco formula - this is a great combination formula for mycoplasma and reports I have heard show it is pretty effective for most people.

Cryptolepis as a systemic antibiotic. 1 tsp 3x daily (woodlandessence.com).

Mycoplasma actually likes gluten so it is good you aren't eating it - avoid white sugar as well and also nuts and seeds and any oils that come from them.

I would highly recommend bee pollen to help replace the amino acids that the mycoplasma are consuming. 1 tbl daily in the a.m.

And to help your adrenals and energy I would highly suggest the muscle tone formula from Woodland Essence which is composed of pine pollen, aralia, and American ginseng tinctures. 1 dropperful 3x daily.

If your energy is really low the use of eleutherococcus tincture (HerbPharm brand only) is essential. 1 tsp a.m. and noonish.

A general multi-vitamin supplement plus extra C, D, E, CoQ-10, beta-carotene, quercetin, folic acid, bioflavoids and biotin are necessary and helpful when recovering from a mycoplasmal infection.

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We used either Ledum K200 or Hypericum K200 homeopathic, I can't remember which now.

Once a week or so for a while.

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Is Minocin the same as Minocycline?

I was just about to restart Biaxin for Myco P. Would Minocyline be a better choice? If so, why?

Also trying to find out how long term Factive is prescribed-dosage and duration.

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I don't have personal experience, but this study from 1985 claims they have similar effectiveness:
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Comparative activity of minocycline and doxycycline on mycoplasmas pathogenic for man

"Both antibiotics exhibited similar activities against the three species (same ranges, same mode MICs)."

little olive

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CherylSue
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any more experiences? How long did it take you to get well?
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Some mycoplasma agents Dr. K. uses and talked about at the Beyond Lyme seminar last weekend:

Quintessence
Rizol Gamma, Epsilon and My
Freed Dried Garlic (organic)
MMS
APN desensitization
Enzymes
Biopure Lyme Nosode
Alternative: antibiotics

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Gigi,

Do you have ny more about the conference? Are there notes online? I'm interested in what he has to say about Mycoplasma. I don't know whay all those are that you listed. Does he have a site I can view?

Thanks,
CherylSue

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Cheryl you may have luck researching Dr. Garth Nicolson. I had to chance to speak with him and he is very knowledgable about Mycoplasma infection (it appears to be his main point of research) and knows what a struggle Lyme, etc., can be as well

A nonprofit institute dedicated to discovering new diagnostic and therapeutic solutions for chronic mycoplasma infections.

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Thanks, Olive. I did contact them and he send me two documents to download. I've been researching everything I can.

I just wnat to get a handle how long I'm going to be in this relapse. I haven't worked in 3 1/2 weeks. I'm a little desperate.

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How long is hard to answer. I have also relapsed with it. I found out in December and I am still working on it.
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bump

What treats Myco these days?

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CHAGA MUSHROOMS ! A friend who was seriously ill with HEP C , a viral disease , has improved greatly with this immune boosting mushroom. She orders from won with nature , but there are other places . You can read about chaga at Sloan Kettering site where herbs and supplements are discussed . Also , PUBMED . Chaga is used in many other countries . It also is antiviral, antibacterial, and effective against several lines of cancer cells.
You can order a different version from amazon that is good also. Reishi mushrooms are also fabulus infection fighters and can be purchased in liquid form I believe from herb pharm . The liquid drops can be dropped in juice .
GSE ) grapefruitseed extract is also an effective antiinfective and safe .

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My LLMD recently recommended A-Myco.
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CherylSue

I also have a very tough time with zith - it leaves me spacey and disoriented. With the 10 day half life it was a LONG time getting over that....

However, there are other macrolides - I'm doing pretty well with biaxin (clarythromycin).

Usually, pairs of abx are more effective than just one; a macrolide and tetracycline are better than either alone. You might try talking with your LLMD about biaxin.

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