randibear
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i was reading on the web about candida and it said take coconut oil. start out with l teaspoon, so stupid me...
well i can DO this...
i have extra virgin coconut oil and i opened that sucker, put my spoon in, and swallowed it.
bout an hour or so later, OMG....all of a sudden my face felt like it was flushed or something cause this heat sensation started at the top of my head and went down.
i'm actually breathing a little better. course this dang chest still hurts but it's not the OMG can't breath type i've been having.
so maybe i'll keep doing this and hopefully this will help.
it said to work up to 2 tablespoons in the morning and 2 at night. don't know if i can handle that but i'm willing to try.
gotta try something.
anybody take this stuff and have good results? i've heard of cooking and baking with it, but not just putting a spoon in it and eating it.
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I've never felt a thing from it. I like to put it on crackers though. I also cook my scrambled eggs with it if hubby is not around. He hates the smell of it.
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If the coconut oil was not organic, you may have had a sulfite reaction (flushing is a really common reaction to sulfites).....
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I've heard to start with smaller amounts - 1/4 teas - especially if you have a serious candida infection.
I like eating it off a spoon - yummy! or mixing it with butter to put on toast.
I don't have lyme, so my diet isn't as restricted...
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I tried it once fresh out of the jar and almost blew it all over the kitchen.
Bought some more cause you all rave about it, haven't had the nerve to open it...
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quote:Originally posted by Dogsandcats: I tried it once fresh out of the jar and almost blew it all over the kitchen.
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Randibear, be careful. I went crazy with it and put it on everything. The next thing I knew, I started getting chest pains. So I eased off of it a lot (only have a tiny bit every day) and the chest pains went away.
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Carol in PA
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quote:Originally posted by Razzle: If the coconut oil was not organic, you may have had a sulfite reaction (flushing is a really common reaction to sulfites).....
I don't think they ever put sulfites in coconut oil.
Because of the molecular construction of the oil, it does not spoil readily.
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Tracy9
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I have no reaction whatsoever from it. I started it recently, about a tablespoon a day, and have eaten it in many creative ways.
I am not sure why we eat it though; I see everywhere that we are supposed to. Is it for anything other than yeast? My biggest concern is that it is EXTREMELY high in saturated/trans fat which we know we are supposed to totally stay away from, and here we are shoving this bad fat down our throats; seems to be really bad.
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Carol in PA
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Coconut oil does something good to the thyroid. It is antibacterial and antiviral.
As far as being high in saturated fats....pfft. These fats are good for you. The monolaurin is also present in breast milk, and is very important for brain function.
Coconut oil has no trans fat.
It's not the saturated fats that are the problem. It's the INFLAMMATION.
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jackie51
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Coconut oil--it's what for breakfast. LOL.
If I don't have time to eat, I grab a spoonful of this. I think it's great stuff.
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Watch this video to the end. It will make you want to include coconut oil in your diet every day. (I have to use small doses - as I think it makes me herx - it is anti-bacterial, anti-viral, and anti-fungal)
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Randi, coconut oil will also Raise your HDL cholesterol (a good thing) and Lower your triglycerides
Raising your HDL may bring your ratio of LDL to HDL in line and shut your doc up about your cholesterol.
I started off slowly, using a teaspoonful in a cup of green tea each morning.
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Coconut oil is great for Hypothyroidism. It even aids in weight loss.
Its a great antiviral and antibacterial.
It has the goog fats.
Start off slow!
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quote:Originally posted by Tracy9: Is it for anything other than yeast? My biggest concern is that it is EXTREMELY high in saturated/trans fat which we know we are supposed to totally stay away from, and here we are shoving this bad fat down our throats; seems to be really bad.
Thoughts on that? It worries me.
It is NOT high in transfat. Saturated fat is not bad for you, especially in this medium chain fatty acid. ALL the saturated fat studies included transfats and animal fats as being the same thing. Newer studies that differentiate show transfats as being the bad ones (margarine, crisco, etc.).
Saturated fats like animal fats and coconut oil have a lot of health benefits. They are also loaded with nutrients. Like butter is high in vitamin K. Many nutrients are fat soluble, so if you're on a low fat diet, you miss out on many nutrients. I actually eat a high fat diet ... lots of eggs, butter, coconut oil, macadamia nuts, avocadoes, nut butters etc. I also eat a lot of fresh meats, vegetables, and fruit.
It's simple carbs and starchy carbs that are more of a concern. Mix those with fats, and you have weight gain. Don't be afraid of fat ... it keeps you full longer, too. And makes your skin look good.
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I think you had an allergic reaction.
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tricia386
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cocnut oil is great for the skin, sometimes I rub it all over my face within a few weeks i an glowing!
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Catgirl
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With respect, and I'm not trying to discount what others have said here--I've heard all this, read up on it (several books on the benefits of coconut oil).
I tried it (went crazy with it). My blood work looked good, but it gave me chest pains so I had to cut back (cutting back took my chest pain away). I'm no doc, I just know that for me, I can only take a little.
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I love the stuff!
But, definitely start out slow!! I started with 1/4 teaspoon and very slowly worked up from there.
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Could it be that it's hard on your gallbladder? I've had to watch it lately with fats and oils.
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Do you have any nut allergies? Because coconut is technically, a "nut!"
Although I wouldn't be surprised if it caused some sort of Herx reaction in Lyme patients.
I would rule out the possibility of sulfites in Virgin Coconut Oil - but I can tell you that Sweetened SHREDDED COCONUT IS definitely sulfited! (to keep it looking white.)
I'm thinking of using it as a salad dressing, which means I would have to keep it out on the counter at room temperature. It's supposed to be such a great "brain food!"
I also like it as a suntanning lotion - smells so yummy, and it won't put dangerous chemicals into my skin.
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Carol in PA
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quote:Originally posted by Catgirl:
I tried it (went crazy with it)... but it gave me chest pains so I had to cut back (cutting back took my chest pain away).
Catgirl, I suspect that your chest pain was due to reflux of stomach contents up into the esophagus.
Also known as heartburn.
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Catgirl
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I wish Carol. I love coconut milk/oil. No, I monitored it all with a food journal. I haven't had any reflux or GERD in a few years. Journaling helped me nail it down.
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Thanks for clearing that up. I've switched over completely to coconut milk and I have been eating about a tablespoon or so of coconut oil often times in the am or pm with my Malarone. Did I already say that above? Anyway I had no problem with needing to ramp up. I'll take the weight loss and the help with my thyroid any day!!!! As well as the other benefits. I'll keep eating it! And drinking it. I love the coconut milk on cereal and in my protein shakes....it's just the only store that sells it is like 45 minutes. I hate the soy coconut milk the grocery store carries, it's gross! I have to get it at Trader Joe's. I'm all out now.
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Tracy9
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Mmmmmm I just mixed a tablespoon up with a handful of fresh blueberries....that was really delicious!!!
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dbpei
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I love coconut milk too. Does anyone know of any that is sold without the added calcium? I like to have it with breakfast, but when I take my ABX, I don't want to have any calcium within 2 hours.
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What am I doing wrong? Dogsandcats, I was underwhelmed as well. I started with a small amount from the jar (Whole Foods 365 brand) and.......tasted like a whole lot of nothing, just oily. I think I would spew it as well if I even had to do a tsp at a time.
The coconut oil was in a state somewhere between a liquid and a solid. Should it be more solid? I know it has to do with temp....I live in a hot climate and can only have the AC turned down so low.
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dbpei
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The taste of coconut oil does not appeal to me either. I try to use it when I coat a baking pan or substitute for olive oil in some recipes... but it really can make me nauseous. I wish I liked it the way some are reporting here too!
I do use it on my skin and my husband has been putting it in his oatmeal to try and raise his HDL. If you google it, it has over 50 uses! Just wish the taste would grow on me too...
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Catgirl
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I think some people use the words coconut oil and mean coconut milk. The milk is delicious. The oil is bland. You can still reap some benefits from the coconut milk though.
Dbpei, I wouldn't worry so much about the calcium. I took my doxy with calcium for two months solid before I actually discovered I wasn't supposed to (and I still got better). It's just a small amount of calcium. You can always get the canned stuff.
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I've been using coconut oil for months now and have no idea if it does anything? I like the taste.
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I just posted this in another thread, but I am going to repost here too. This is the only way I can eat CO and it is the best!
2tbsp melted CO 1tbsp unsweetened cocoa powder 2 packets splenda or stevia to taste
mix well with whisk. put in freezer for 20 minutes. Make a wonderful candy bar. I eat this everyday and it keeps me feeling full.
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jackie51
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I even like coconut water, so hydrating. Must be the real thing though and not from concentrate.
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Wow, kidsgotlyme, your recipe sounds awesome!! I'm going to try it today!! Sue
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Back when I could eat an Atkins bar, I would put a tablespoon of CO on my tongue and then eat the bar.. . or even a bite or two of it. (turn the spoon upside down and lick the spoon)
Easy to get down and tasted better that way.
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kidsgotlyme
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I am now drinking CO in my hot cocoa. So good!
1cup coconut/almond blend milk 1tbsp.unsweetened cocoa 1tbsp heavy whipping cream(gives it a creamier texture) 4-5drops liquid splenda 1 tbsp CO
Some people put it in their coffee also
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- Because it's been impossible for me to find even a natural toothpaste that does not burn, I have finally discovered:
Coconut oil can make a wonderful toothpaste, BTW.
Coconut oil; Baking Soda; a drop or two of certain essential oil.
I use a few drops of Auromere Ayuvedic Mouth Wash but a drop of mint, frankincense, tea tree oil, etc. can be used.
Do not make it so strong that it burns, though. Oral care products should never burn. Ever. IMO. If they burn, dilute until they do not. -
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Randi, I was gonna say allergy too. I am very allergic to coconut. I used to love it...especially fresh. I believe you can do your own patch test. Scratch yourself lightly with a pin and put an drop of the cocunut oil on it. If you get a hive... Stay away.
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kidsgotlyme
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Someone mentioned that it could be hard on the gallbladder. From reading about CO, I highly doubt that is the problem.
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