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imagine2
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Also, how do you tell the difference between lyme arthritis, osteoarthritis and rheumatoid arthritis?
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I've learned that Lyme can do anything.
Don't rule anything out.

Treat and see if there are improvements

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I know it can cause destruction of the cartilage... and that can probably lead to a torn meniscus.

Osteo can be seen on X-rays. RA can show up in bloodwork, as can Lyme.

A rheumatologist can easily distinguish between RA and Osteo.. but not sure they would have a clue about lyme. Depends upon the doctor.

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lpkayak
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i had 2 repairs on each knee b4 i was 35...the doc said it "looks" like osteo-arthritis but it doesnt make sense . he was a pretty good doc. but not LL. he said i needed replacements then...but i waited 10 yrs b4 haveing them

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I do know that CIPRO caused alarming knee problems for me and many others . I found many testimonies online of disturbing problems with quinolones and permanent damage . My own experience frightened me and I was shocked that I could barely bend my knee after a week of cipro. My neck was also stiff .

The knee was swollen for weeks afterwards and very stiff . The only thing that helped was prayer and magnesium citrate . The magnesium made a huge difference .

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Oh dear, lpkayak, how did you wait 10 years? Wasn't the pain excruciating?

I can barely walk...am seeing an orthopedic doc this week, not LL:(

Thanks to everyone for your responses. They are always helpful!

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Yes, lyme loves the knees. I had knee problems 12 years ago when we moved to house that had deer cruising through our yard. It felt like something just ripped on top (slightly above knee cap) right after I stretched to go on a walk.

My doc (back then) couldn't understand what was wrong with my knee, so she sent me to physical therapy. The PT told me to do knee exercises (one of them worked). The exercise keeps the pain away. Whenever I get pain, I do the exercise.

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i fell and damaged my right knew. I believe Lyme goes to the weakest or damaged areas.

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I have found that taking turmeric on a daily basis reduces pain and swelling in my ankles and knees.
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Yes absolutely these infections can cause damage to any body part.

Nettles is protective of the joint tissues (according to Buhner). And I find nettles very helpful for joint pain.

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quote:
Originally posted by imagine2:

I can barely walk...


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Look into hyaluronic acid.

iHerb.com carries it and has reviews, as does Amazon.com.


This is simple and inexpensive.

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MANYBITES said,

"Also take the THIEVES OILS and rub them over your knees.Take MMS cream and rub it in your knees to stop the bugs chewing the cartilage.I have used MMS CREAM and The enzyme cream."

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Are you sure you don't mean MSM cream??

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Carol in Pa How much does the hyaluronic acid?
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quote:
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Carol in Pa How much does the hyaluronic acid?

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http://www.iherb.com/Hyaluronic-Acid


Hyaluronic acid at Amazon.com



This might not work, of course, but it's simple to try.

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Oh dear, lpkayak, how did you wait 10 years? Wasn't the pain excruciating?

I can barely walk...am seeing an orthopedic doc this week, not LL:(

Thanks to everyone for your responses. They are always helpful!

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yeah...that was one of those things i had to do...i couldnt not work...my husband didnt have healthe ins-only me. 4 kids. you do what you gotta do.

i was in a wheelchair for 8 months before surgery. took a long time to research docs and hospitals in my area...had both replaced at the same time...it was the hardest thing i ever did...and i had 2 babies without drugs. 3 months later i started riding horses again...hadnet ridden in 10 yrs. glad i did it.

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