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cosmos
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I'm new to this board and to learning about Lyme. I've never had a Lyme test and only after going to doctors for many years, spending tens of thousands of dollars being treated for other conditions, and not being helped have I begun to look into Lyme as a possibility.

I would like to get the most comprehensive testing available right off the bat. Assuming money is not an issue, what testing would you recommend? So far I'm liking:

CD57
KPU/HPU
SpiroStat Lyme panel with Babesia
SpiroStat Fungi testing
MyLyme Immune ID Comprehensive from NeuroScience

These are all offered on the website forresthealth.com under Lyme testing. I have had phone consults with this doctor and really like him, and he recommends these particular tests.

Do these tests look comprehensive to you? Is there anything I should add? Take away?

I should also briefly describe my symptoms:
Severe, chronic insomnia
Severe, body-wide RSD (Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy) with a whole range of neurological symptoms--burning pain, dizziness, lightheadedness, temperature control issues, etc.
Hair loss
Anxiety, irritability, hyperactive mind, etc.

I know Lyme can never be definitively ruled out, but I want to come as close as possible to ruling it in or out, know what I mean? My symptoms are severe and I'm desperate for help.

Thank you!!

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sixgoofykids
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Maybe also add an IGeneX Western Blot for both IgG and IgM

Keep in mind that some of us need the KPU supplements but don't necessarily have KPU. I took the supps for a couple years because they muscle tested well for me, but after I got my body back in balance, I no longer needed them.

I'd get a thyroid panel done.

Maybe iron checked, hemoglobin and ferritin, as anemia can cause fatigue.

I don't know if they can check for iodine levels, but I know that iodine supplementation was great for me. I take one drop of Lugol's daily.

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Diagnosing Lyme Disease (&/or whatever else is going on)

Other tick-borne infections and other chronic stealth infections - as well as certain conditions - that can hold us back are discussed here.

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Topic: NATURAL SLEEP & ADRENAL SUPPORT

Links to articles & supplements
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I would do the new Advanced Labs test for Lyme. It's a culture test.... or the Igenex WB as Six mentioned above.

Also Igenex for Babesia and Bartonella.

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The MyLyme Immune from NeuroScience includes the WB for IgG and IgM, which I like. One thing I'm not sure about is whether or not it tests for 10 bands of each like Ienex does or three like most other tests. I'll have to call them and find out.

I've been thoroughly tested for thyroid conditions and most everything else that my primary care doc will agree to test for (and she's pretty agreeable to whatever I want). All thyroid tests are always normal, though my TSH does fluctuate a lot, but always within 0.5 to 2.5.

I've had a full iron panel, except ferritin which was just tested and I'll get the results soon. Iron is on the low side but not abnormal, just not optimal. I'll probably look into iron supplements soon.

Hemoglobin was 12.7 last checked.

Funny you mentioned iodine--I'm doing an iodine test tomorrow through ZRT Labs.

Thanks for the info--will keep all of it in mind.

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Keebler--awesome info, thanks. I do have adrenal issues which I'm addressing. Have done all the comprehensive at-home saliva and urine tests. My cortisol is low during the day and high at night. My adrenal, pituitary, and sex hormones are all at the very low end of the "normal" range. I'm doing more testing in this area over the next month.

Lymetoo--oooo, I like that culture test. Will definitely do that one, thanks. I need to make sure babesia and bartonella are included in the tests I'm already getting--the doc said they are.

I want to make sure any supplements I take aren't wasted money or, worse yet, making everything worse, you know? I do eat a low-sugar, mostly organic whole foods diet and exercise as much as possible everyday. The problem is I have to take such a high dosage of Neurontin to kill the nerve/RSD pain that I experience a whole host of unpleasant symptoms from that on top of everything else. Sigh....

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Sounds like you're on the right track!

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Which thyroid tests specifically have you had? TSH is not particularly reliable on its own.
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I've had TSH, total T4 and T3, Free T4 and T3, reverse T3, and all thyroid antibodies. Everything is always within the normal range, though probably not the optimal range. My impression is that TSH is kind of useless for thyroid testing and is more an indicator of pituitary health, so I really pressed my doc to do the additional testing.

The reason I'm turning to Lyme testing at this point is because I've had sooo much other testing and spent sooo much money on doctors, supplements, and therapies that just didn't help. There must be something else going on, something that led to the insomnia and now the RSD, and all the other awful symptoms. Lyme has been bought up as a possibility by several docs I've seen over the years but it's never been tested. I am SO ready to get this testing and hopefully get some answers.

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quote:
Originally posted by cosmos:

The MyLyme Immune from NeuroScience includes the WB for IgG and IgM, which I like. One thing I'm not sure about is whether or not it tests for 10 bands of each like Ienex does or three like most other tests. I'll have to call them and find out.


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Make sure about that. Igenex has the best WB in my opinion.

www.igenex.com .. test #188 and 189

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