sammy
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Can someone PM me the current Dr.K parasite protocol? I'm guessing we cannot post it here since it would contain dosages.
I was told that I would be starting the "Dr K protocol".
I picked my RX's up from the pharmacy and I've been given Bitricide for 2 days, Ivermectin for 1 day, PinX for 1 day, then Alinia for 6days. No refills.
I thought that the Dr.K protocol lasted at least a couple weeks? My treatment will be over in 10 days. I did test positive through Metametrix so that is why we are doing the treatment.
I'm concerned that this treatment may not be adequate. Hopefully it will be.
Thanks friends.
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Thank you MattH and Dyna, no one has sent me a PM with specific information yet.
Does anyone know the Dr.K protocol? I'm interested to see what others are doing.
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Sammy,
On The off chance that it would be on line I googled "Dr. K. parasite protocol" and found this post. Just scroll down after googling and you will find it. The whole protocol is there.
About to start RX K...... protocol
Good Luck,
Gael
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Thanks Gael, that is the protocol that I had seen before.
I will edit out the dosages: -Biltricide for two days -Ivermectin and Pyrantel Pamoate taken together for 14 days -Albenza for fourteen days -Alinia for fourteen days
Full Dr. K protocol is 44 days of treatment and I've been prescribed 10days. Will this be strong enough to help me? To get rid of all long standing parasite infections?
Thoughts?
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You can e-mail GiGi....I don't have her e-mail, but she has posted it publicly. Maybe if you post asking for it, she will see it or someone else can give it. As far as the length of time for parasite protocols,
I think I have seen info that said he treated some patients for up to a year for parasites. Makes sense because they are difficult to get rid of with all the eggs and larva they lay.
In third world countries where they treat fpr filariasis, they treat with Ivermectin on a continuous basis.
I will always stay on top of it with maintenance dose of salt/c and antiparasitic herbs. If you can't get your doc to prescribe more antiparasitics, you can always switch to herbs.
Gael
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I think it depends what kind of parasite you have. What was found on metametrix testing?
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My report said "parasite present, taxonomy unknown".
I also have an immune deficiency with a history of travel and volunteer work in foreign countries. So whatever has been found should be treated.
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Sammy, why did your doc only give you 10 days worth if Doc K's treatment is 44 days (I don't understand)? Has it helped? Can you feel them coming back?
Also, when you did the test, did you take anything to provoke the parasites before testing?
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Seeing one of Dr. K's ND. I'm into my second months.
Stated me off with LDN, mimosa, artemisinin, rizol oils, byron white virus formula, inhaling SSKI and antibiotics. Had to stop antibiotics, everything else is working well. Will eventually take prescription anti-parasitics as well.
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Sent PM...
"parasite present, taxonomy unknown" could mean alot of things. Some people ar having a hard time with Blastocystis hominis. I read about it.
I think there may be alot of weird or unknown bugs out there. You probably need a longer protocol than what your doctor suggested - but that's just my intuition & I'm not a doctor.
What are your symptoms? You will probably be able to observe how you react when you take the drugs. That's a good indication that something is being affected.
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Thanks friends.
My doctor did not want to treat longer than the 10 days described above. I'm honestly not sure why he hesitates to prescribe further. I've tried asking and talking with him about it, he says that now is not the time.
We did the testing because I have a primary immune deficiency (CVID). I also have a history of heavy exposure in foreign countries, I used to do volunteer medical work and such before I got sick.
I had the Lyme bull's eye rash and started getting joint aches a couple weeks later but what caused me to seek medical care was severe GI problems that began immediately after returning from Ecuador.
My doctors have always suspected that I've picked up some kind of foreign infection and parasites (they did not suspect the Lyme) but no one has ever known what to test for. The metametrix test offered a way for us to try to see if they could identify a parasite especially since I am still having severe GI problems years later.
My current symptoms are nausea and vomiting. Seems to be gastroparesis flaring, I get sick sometimes 6-8hrs after I've eaten. I cannot eat much volume, I cannot eat much hard to digest food like meats, beans, or veggies.
I get severe lower abdominal pain attacks that literally cause me to lose consciousness. Those are scary, those happen rarely now if I stay on Levaquin. I have nerve damage (vagal neuropathy) along my entire GI tract that they say was caused by an infection. It causes slow motility and severe constipation.
The 10day parasite protocol was so short it was hard to tell if anything helped. I seemed to have some kind of flare around the time that I did the ivermectin for 1 day and again when I started the alinia. I would like to try those again.
I probably just told you all way more than you wanted and needed to know. Sorry about that, I seem to have a problem with condensing my thoughts right now.
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Just a note, one of our members here from Texas has been very ill several years with lyme and morgellons . She emailed me that she has been on a parasite drug several months ( fenbendazole ) and is now feeling BETTER!! She is actually starting to have a life again !
I think parasite treatment must be longterm . I started feeling much better on ivermectin, then stopped it and my problems returned . We have probably had parasites for years , and they do not die fast and easy . Some people rotate meds or pulse meds . Others rotate herbs and meds and salt C protocol.
Also , when I first started ivermectin I figured I had no parasites and expected nothing .I was shocked to herx like hell and to find I was passing VERY UNUSUAL things that looked like hundreds of seeds or stringy items . These only occur with the parasite meds .
From what I am reading most people feel worse initially , then later improve . And treatment has to go on a long time. Docs here may say to treat them once or twice , but most of them lay eggs or reproduce frequently . They are not going to go away easily or in a short while.
You can google : "ICU parasite protocol Cure Zone " and find the rotations . Also , google "lungworm CFS Dr Klapow " and read about the HARVARD study that found a large number of CFS patients ( and zero of the controls ) to have lung worm , a parasite . I have read other health boards and found some lyme people posting they tested positive for it also .
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While it is common knowledge that parasites can give us gastrointestinal problems such as diarrhea and vomiting, few people appreciate the connection between these microbes and chronic disease outside the digestive tract such as arthritis, chronic fatigue syndrome, asthma, skin disorders and depression.
Parasites are able to produce downstream symptoms outside the GI tract by way of
1) direct injury to the gut lining,
2) releasing toxic by-products into the body, and
3) migration from the intestinal tract into the general circulation to other parts of the body.
Gut lining injury
Some parasites directly invade the lining of the intestines. For instance tapeworms and roundworms attach themselves to the lining of the small intestine, resulting in intestinal bleeding which leads to loss of nutrients. Other types of parasites provoke allergic reactions that lead to inflammation of the gut lining. Both contribute to leaky gut syndrome, a condition whereby the pores of the intestinal lining are opened too wide, allowing undigested food particles, environmental toxins and pathogens to enter the bloodstream. These foreign invaders overload our liver and also accumulate in our organs, muscles, lymphatic system and nervous system, creating a wide variety of disease conditions like arthritis, asthma, eczema, and chronic fatigue and memory loss.
Toxic By-products
Like all living organisms, parasites secrete waste products. These parasite wastes add on to their hosts' toxic load and become stressors to our immune system.
Migration
Parasites are capable of migrating from the intestines to organs, joints and muscles. Cryptostrongylus pulmoni, a type of lung worm discovered by Dr Larry Klapow, had shown up in the sputum of 40% of his CFS (chronic fatigue syndrome) patients. Another type of parasite known as E.histolytica had been found to migrate to the liver and is capable of causing weight loss and insomnia. In some cases of ulcerative colitis, elimination of this parasite resolves the condition.
Research Findings
A study reported in the Journal of Nutritional Medicine revealed that out of over 400 chronic fatigue immune deficiency syndrome (CFIDS) patients in New York, an incredible 93 per cent had some form of parasitic infestation. Dr Leo Galland reported that 80% of CFIS patients showed significant improvement of fatigue after receiving treatment for infection by a type of parasite known as Blastocystis hominis.
Many doctors and other health professionals now believe that we may be seriously underestimating parasites as contributors to chronic disease. Fortunately, with the right herbal and nutritional supplements, we can enjoy good health once again.
Download a Free Report titled "What You Never Knew About Probiotics" from Evelyn's website [http://www.healnrenew.com]
Evelyn Yeo is a qualified Naturopath and writer of numerous articles on Digestive Wellness and Chronic Disease.
Parasite Remedies Guidelines for Taking Medication
You have been advised to take parasite medication(s) and you might be wondering, �Yuk! Do I really have worms in my body? Dr. Yu didn�t even check my stool. How does he know what kind of parasites I have?
How does he know how to treat them?� Most parasites are invisible, microscopic and outside of the intestinal tract. I recommend you go to my website at www.preventionandhealing.com. Look at the �Articles� page for articles on parasites, and the ones titled �Accidental Cure� and �Luthiers and Physicians.�
Also read all of the Testimonials and Success Stories pages. That may seem like a lot of reading. You just have to ask yourself, �Is my health worth taking the time to really understand what�s going on with me and why I should take this medicine?�
Most patients tolerate the medications well and will complete the round of the medications. Some patients have a strong reaction depending on the medications.
Reactions can also result from the effects of killing the parasites. Reactions may include nausea, fatigue, dizziness, rashes, itching, abdominal cramps or diarrhea. Don�t be alarmed. These symptoms are only temporary. If you can�t take the medications, you need to stop the medications and contact the office for advice.
Most of the time, you will be instructed to stop the medications for 48 hours. Then resume at half the dose and finish the medications. Very seldom, you will be instructed to stop the medications altogether.
You may take over�the�counter medications, such as Benedryl or Pepto�Bismol, to relieve some symptoms of itching or upset stomach. For what ever reason, if you cannot tolerate the medications, stop and call the clinic the following working day.
Every person�s situation needs to be addressed for their particular condition. It is not uncommon, though, that parasites can move around from one organ to another and transform into different patterns of impact on your body. For this reason, it is sometimes necessary to use different types of parasite remedies at different times over a period of time.
For example, sometimes different remedies are used one after another as each is used up. At other times, one remedy may be used for awhile and your condition may indicate absence of parasites only to have them return some months later. At this second occurrence a different remedy may be required. Each situation is unique and will be treated only according to what your body is telling us.
Good luck with your journey of recovery and wellness. Background Explanations Addressing Common Questions We have been programmed to believe that parasites infect people who live in tropical countries like Mexico, India and China but not the United States.
You may be warned about parasites only if you travel to those countries. You may have been told that �If you don�t travel outside the U.S. you don�t have to be concerned about parasites.�
However, for the last 50 years there has been a large global migration of people into the U.S. In addition, global warming is creating an unprecedented opportunity for new emerging infectious diseases including parasites. On top of this is environmental pollution that has been destroying our ecosystems. This may allow a friendlier environment for parasites to flourish.
Parasites have been associated with every known disease in the history of human�kind. I consider parasites one of the five principle causes of a large percentage of all illnesses. The other four are: food allergies, heavy metal toxicities, hidden dental problems, and nutritional problems.
Herbal parasite remedies are generally not strong enough to kill deeply embedded parasites in the body. I will often add prescription parasite medications and homeopathic intestinal remedies to have the maximum killing effect.
Most parasites have a very complex life cycle outside of the intestinal tract and require a relatively high dose and multiple treatments.
Some of my patients have tried the Rife frequency generator. But the Rife frequency generator does not penetrate deeply enough into organs like the liver or gallbladder. It might be partially effective at best.
One of the most frequent questions I encounter is, �Is my parasite infestation contagious to my family members?� It all depends on the parasites and how you have acquired them. Not everybody will catch parasites from contaminated water or foods.
It depends on one�s immune system, the strength of your stomach�s ability to produce hydrochloric acid, and your body�s ability to destroy parasite eggs embedded in foods.
However, if you have recurrent parasite related problems while being very careful with your dietary intake, I may recommend your spouse and other family members living with you be evaluated by a doctor familiar with parasite infestation.
I also recommend having your pets checked for parasites by your veterinarian. (I don�t test your pets. I draw the line.)
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PS - Dr. K's protocol was created with Dr. Yu... I believe.
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Also - FYI -
PPTU Forum
This is a forum for protozoa parasite identification, education and treatment strategies.
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Sparkle , you and Keebler are fabulous with your attempts to educate us. You do great research!!
This is fascinating . I am interested in the blastocystis hominis that CFS patients have , which means it may well apply to lyme. What is it treated with ?
I think Gael is right that people who have had these for years will possibly have to treat a long time or off and on FOREVER .
I would like to read Simon Yu's book and his experience finding parasites common as a doctor when we think they are primarily in far away third world locales.
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Also , I wonder if costochondritis or air hunger , mycoplasma infections , or chlamydia are consequences of lung worm . Wish there were more info . Maybe we can all chip in and buy abig bucks microscope , hire a pathologist or ID doc and find the cure ourselves. I would not be surprised if a sick person finds the answer out of desperation.
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Sparkle , the info at parasite forum is fabulous ! THank you ! I am saving it . I just found bromelain kills worms . I always feel better on it and breathe better . Wow.
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