Rivendell
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FIRST REQUIREMENT:
It must be able to bypass my stomach (enteric coated) because of acid reflux. Most of the cleanses use spicey herbs, which I can't tolerate. Can't even take vitamin C, now.
If you know of a product that is enteric coated or any suggestions on what I could do, I would appreciate it.
Thanks
(I am being treated for BART which can cause gastric problems. And I am taking Aloe, which helps. But still need reflux meds.)
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Rivendell
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I guess I'm out of luck.
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desertwind
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I have taken Paragone by Renew life.
Right now I am taking a tinture combo of which I cannot recall the name and do not have it handy. It contains clove, black walnut and woodworm from what I can recall.
Wish I could be of more help....Perhaps someone else will chime in.
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Rivendell
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Thanks. I will look up Paragone.
The problem I am having with so many of these products is that they cause acid reflux.
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I've had acid reflux as a long-term issue that has gotten better with nystatin and lyme treatment, but then I'll go through phases of treating parasites, and it gets worse again during that part, and then it heals again after that completes.
I don't know your particular situation, and am not a gastro doc (saying this as if they're smart or something, when I know most are idiots), but I'm just wondering if your desire is unrealistic. Stirring things up and acid reflux may just be a side effect of killing the parasites, in your situation. What if there are parasites in your stomach? Do you really want the parasite-killer to bypass the area where it is needed?
Those acid reflux meds are addicting, in that they just make your body work less appropriately, so your body needs them more. Have you tried very high doses of nystatin (like 10 million units a day)? Yeast/fungus may be a large part of the acid reflux problem.
If you're just taking aloe as far as healing, you're missing out. Look at a product like Xymogen's GlutAloeMine, which includes glutamine, DGL, arabinogalactin, and aloe.
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Rivendell
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I'm taking high dosages of nystatin and difflucan.
The reflux is so bad that I can't tolerate low dosages of vitamin c. I mean acid in my throat that feels as if it is eating a hole in my throat.
It is improving with Aloe, but not to the point that I can endure spicey herbs every day, which is what the parasidic cleanses are.
Yes, parasites/bart/lyme might be what is causing the reflux, or it could be leaky valve as my doctor says. Of course the above might be causing the leaky valve.
I will look into the product Xymogen's.
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MichaelTampa
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A tough situation for sure!
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Have you treated for H-Pylori?
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I've been tested for it and it came out okay.
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Just throwing it out there, because (pre-Lyme), I spent 10yrs on acid reducers for horrible acid reflux. When I got bit and sick in 2003, dr's first thought I had a sinus infection and put me on Levaquin. It fixed my 'acid reflux' in a week. Levaquin can treat H-pylori.
Guess you have a chicken or the egg' issue,huh??
You could try a 'Zapper' for parasites. I've used one in the past. Just do a web search on Zapper Hulda Clarke.
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Rivendell
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Thanks for the zapper info.
Did it help you?
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The proof was in the toilet, shall we say??? I gained 7 lbs in 10 days immediately following my first 10 day round with the zapper.
I have tons of pets so I know I'm constantly exposed, so would use the Zapper every 6 mos. I was terrified of using things like Humaworm or Parastroy - feared I'd see 3 foot long things exiting and I think if I did I would just pass out...
But I have finally gotten brave and been on Humaworm a month now - I seriously do not think it is strong enough. I expected more results, so have added in more clove.
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Rivendell
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Wow! And it made you gain weight? Looks like you would lose weight.
So maybe the zapper was stronger than the Humaworm.
Do you think you are feeling better now?
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MichaelTampa
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People will gain weight sometimes after treating for parasites. The parasites are eating the food you eat!
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I was diagnosed with acid reflux and the doctor immediately prescribed acid reducers, but mine was caused by LOW acid. I found taking HCL helped tons. Now my gut is balanced and I don't need it anymore, but I needed it for a couple years as I healed my gut.
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In fact, most acid reflux is CAUSED by LOW Acid! The pharma companies are simply trying to sell their products to you! These products can cause serious problems long-term.
HCL, and/or digestive enzymes (like papaya or papain) would be a far better choice.
Also, add PROBIOTICS!
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Rivendell
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I agree with the pharma companies big take-over, but I tried the HCL and it just made it so much worse.
I can't take anything acidy, BUT, the aloe is helping, but still need the acid reducer for now, which is discouraging.
But maybe, if drink lots and lots of Aloe, I can heal this thing. George's Aloe is so very expensive, but the only one I can tolerate.
So many aloe products contain citric acid, which just gets the reflux going.
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Rivendell
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Oh, and I do take digestive enymes, though not papaya. And am taking lots of probiotics.
I'm really not trying to be impossible, here. This is just my situation.
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Do you eat fermented foods? I had to eat lots of raw sauerkraut, kefir and kombucha to heal my gut. Eating the ferments was more effective than probiotics.
Have you seen The Body Ecology Diet? There are good ideas in there, too.
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Try repair vite by apex energetics. Heals gut issues and is mild- tastes like bland tea. Go very slowly and work yourself up to one scoop per day ( split into two doses, in am and pm.). Mix with water. Fermented food nd body ecology diet. Diet is huge.
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I got rid of my acid reflux. It was severe after one of my tick bites (had to sleep sitting upright in a chair). I'm not sure which one of these did it, but here is what helped me get rid of it:
1 teaspoon of honey before bed. I did this pre lyme treatment though.
One spoon of oatmeal before bed (very helpful). Oatmeal sucks all the acid out of your stomach so you can sleep through the night. I would do this with a probiotic or nystatin if you're dealing with yeast. Also one spoonful in the morning.
Zinc. I always feel good taking it. Lyme probably sucks it out of us too. I took 50 mg a day. I asked my LLNP and she said that the norm is 15mg but if I was fine with 50 she was okay with it. But I used to eat a lot of nuts.
There is a copper/zinc thing to balance, so that's probably why I got away with 50 mg. LLNP also said that if I wanted to, I could cut it in half and take 25mg.
When I started abx, I did three at the same time. I think three of them helped to knock it out too.
But after I was off the three abx, it still popped back up from time to time. Every time it felt like it was coming back, I started up on the zinc again (really helps).
Six is right about the fermented foods. Those helped me too.
Oh, and coconut milk too. Just don't take it before bed (made me wired).
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Try repair vite by apex energetics. Heals gut issues and is mild- tastes like bland tea. Go very slowly and work yourself up to one scoop per day ( split into two doses, in am and pm.). Mix with water. Fermented food nd body ecology diet. Diet is huge.
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If you take zinc, it's the zinc carnosine form that it helpful for the gut lining.
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