Topic: Newer information from Dr. F on Protomyxzoa
nefferdun
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Scroll down to his name to read it. He mentions using ivermectin. He says it multiplies 100 times faster with lipids. He says it loves folic acid, arginine and magnesium so you should limit those.
In my methyl cycle tests I am supposed to supplement 5 methyl folate because my body cannot assimilate it. I wonder if the biofilm is using the folate I cannot use myself.
He mentions things used to treat biofilm that you may not have thought of like lactoferrrin and xylitol.
He also says it is a Big Bug and lives on the OUTSIDE of red blood cells. There may be some more questions answered for you.
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Fascinating. I like the other doc's info too.
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How do you limit Mg if your muscles are constantly twitching and you are severely depleted? I have been trying to figure this one out for a long time. Is it about having a happy median, or staying deficient?
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Recommending people, who need folate, to limit their folate supplementation (and magnesium) can be dangerous & bad advice.
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This article was posted in May of this year. Intesting that when I saw him in July now, he said treatment that seems to be working the best is Malarone and Zith. But... as we all know, we react differently to different drugs so not all are on this plan with him. He stated some are still doing the Ivermectin and doing good.
This is how it was worded with the other interests: Other substances that are of interest to biofilm researchers include: Lactoferrin, Xylitol, Gallium, Dispersin, Farnesol, RNAIII inhibiting peptide, and Furanone C30.
Interesting in the dental world, Xylitol has been a hot item in the last few years.
Another quote: �For autoimmune conditions, antimalarials, antibiotics, anti-protozoals, anti-fungals, anti-biofilm agents, biologics, and dietary modifications may be beneficial.
I do eat a little chicken and grass feed beef, this is what was said on that: �Omega fats from chicken and plants are probably the best.
Remember our bodies are not 'normal' so all your normal knowledge on what folate or magnesium should and could do for our bodies doesn't apply.
We are a different ballgame.
Thanks Neff for finding that and sharing!!!
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Limiting folate will not work to kill the bug in my opinion. They have been trying that for years with malaria and it does not work. That is the way the meds bactrim and daraprim work on malaria and babesia -- they deplete folate of folic acid or some step in that pathway -- not 100% sure of the exact clinical terminology.
All parasites require iron as well and personally I still wonder if the low fat diet does not work more because of the reduction of iron in the diet than due to fat restrictions.
Everyone needs to remember that what the doc is reporting is what happens in the test tube. And so far it is just clinical observations based on a very small number of patients. There have been no scientific studies published at this point to prove or disprove the info being reported.
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I found this article about a culture that traditionlly eats a low fat diet...
Kitava, a small island in the Trobriand Islands group of Papua New Guinea where nutritional habits are virtually uninfluenced by Western dietary habits.
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Kitava has 2,300 inhabitants and the life expectancy at birth is estimated at 45, including infant mortality, the life expectancy at the age 50 is about 75. While this life expectancy at birth may not sound like a lot, it is quite remarkable for a population with limited access to modern medicine.
It is also important to consider the most common causes of death on Kitava, which include accidents (such as drowning), homicide, malaria, and pregnancy complications. Among the elderly population on Kitava, accidents and old age � rather than degenerative diseases � top the list of common causes of death.
Research suggests that the good health among Kitavans is not related to genetics as genetically similar groups who eat an abundance of industrial food appear to be susceptible to the degenerative diseases of the West.
Also exercise is not a likely cause of the unexceptional health on Kitava as an average Kitavan is only slightly more physically active than a Western person leading a sedentary lifestyle.
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It's interesting because they said one of the main causes of death is malaria...
So, I'm not sure this ultra low fat concept is what is effecting the health of people with the parasite that Dr. F is looking into - since protomyxzoa ia a protozoa in part.
If someone has been eating a Western diet - it's probably not a bad idea to cut fats out for a "fast" - so to speak. I don't know if it's necessary or healthy over a long period of time.
I've done some extreme things to get well. I guess I'm kind of tired of having to go out of my way to do something that may or maynot help. I don't think it's a bad idea to cut the fats out or change one's diet. I just don't know if it's really the cure for this elusive bug.
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I do not feel that cutting fats is a 'cure' for what I have. I look at it as one more thing that I can do to help make myself feel better.
Dr. F is not saying it's a cure either. We need to watch how we word things so as someone new reading things for the first time might get the wrong idea.
It's my way of life. I do lower fats, no oils, no nuts, eat whole foods... I'm not hurting by this at all. I can exercise and work full time, I can be and look normal. To me, that's all I'm asking. I want to exsist and live.
I figure too... since this is making me feel better and the treatment I'm on is also good, why not do it until there is an answer that is more concrete. It's not like I'm spending hundreds of bucks to treat. It's just food that is healthy.
I've never had a test come back that I'm low on magnisium all these years of not supplementing.If something like this isn't for you, then don't do it.
Yes, it's a test tube and clinical findings. I'm one of the lab rats. I would rather listen to a guy that has boohoo years of study and college behind him than someone that doesn't have a degree stating their thoughts. I will listen to him for now.
What works for me might not for you. I won't knock your treatment if you don't knock mine. Why would anyone state negative things about someone that is trying to figure something out. It's not harming you at all if you don't want to do it. Just baffles me.
Each to our own. (saying with a smile)
Beth
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I would be willing to change my diet if it helps. We just don't know if that's really it. I don't have anything against anyone doing it.
It would be interesting to see how many people feel better from cutting back fats to the level recommended. Has anyone tried it & not felt better? We also have to consider other factors like drugs, herbs & supplements.
I can see that fats may feed some bug. Not a big stretch of the imagination... The body is going to have some fat in it, forever - even if we completely stop eating all fats. There will always be something for a potential bug to eat as long as we are alive. I think the same may be true of yeast, too.
I just don't want to spend 5 hours a day in the kitchen. I did that before for about 6 months & didn't feel any better.
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