RZR
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Still trying to get the hang of this, but it's amazing how it actually works!
Do you hold meds while asking pendulum if your body needs them?
Do you ask if you have certain co-infections?
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MichaelTampa
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Generally, I hold meds/substances/foods by my abdomen (belly button area and/or a little higher) when I do that. For substances my body is very familiar with (taken a lot), I don't really need to do that, and can just think about them and ask about them without the substance being present.
It takes some learning and thinking to figure out what you can effectively ask a pendulum. If your body doesn't know the answer, then you can't get an answer. I don't think I would just say, "do I have a babesia infection" and expect an answer. How does my body know what I mean by the word babesia? If I had a vial with the energy of the substance, perhaps I could then ask that question. I know some acupuncturist/NAET practitioners who have had vials of substances, and then they can test for a reaction, and find that telling (more reliable than a blood test, probably).
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Exactly like you said MichaelTampa. I test pathogens, heavy metals, chemicals, etc... holding the vials containing the nosodes. After a while, your body already knows what babesia is and you can test even without the nosodes, although I feel that the tests are more accurate with nosode.
I use Biotensor because it is much faster and more sensitive than pendulum. When you use it for a while, you start feeling the energy flow from meds or nosodes. You can get the nosodes from Deseret Biologics or Ergopathics.
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I'm really surprised... I googled "how to use a pendulum" & alot more info came up than there was a few years ago. I guess it's getting more popular. So - there's alot of info out there to learn.
I've been wanting to go to the dowsing association meetings in NYC but I couldn't make it last time. They have some great speakers.
It's a great tool. It's important to phrase the question properly. I think it usually is best for questions that are "right now". It can't really tell if you will need vitamin C in the evening if you are asking in the morning for example.
I think we can bias our answers, too - so it can be a little tricky. For exapmle - if I'm dowsing something expensive & I'm running out - my own mind can influence the response because I may not have the money to get more... so, it may suggest not taking it or taking less than I need.
I dowsed for parasites for a while & I always got a no until I actually started seeing them in the toilet... I may not have wanted to believe that I actually had them or maybe they are adept at hiding?
I got a bobber & it seems to be quicker & easier to use than a pendulum.
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Do you have to put an herb your testing in a vile, or can we just use the bottle it comes in to pendulum test?
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sparkle7
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You can just use the bottle... You can just picture it in your mind or use a photo on the computer screen, etc & ask, too.
You have to practice a bit & get some experience. Everyone has their own methods, though. You can do alot with dowsing. I'd like to learn more.
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GiGi
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when you learn to use a pendulum or biotensor, please understand that when a person is not in perfect health, any substance brought into the energy field of the person can immediately block his/her regulation. That means the body is unable to tell the truth when it is in blocked regulation. The instrument goes into the opposite direction of where it would go when the body's regulation is open.
When we are sick, the change from blocked to unblocked can happen in a split second and the test results would of course be wrong.
So you need to find a way to know before you start whether your body is blocked or unblocked.
If it is blocked, you will need to find what unblocks it. Often the anti-med, will immediately unblock you and thereby tell you exactly what your body is most concerned with.
Say if Ivermectin opens your regulation, you know - common sense tells you - that since Ivermectin is an antiparasitical, your body is dealing with parasites/protozoa.
Or, if you find youself blocked, and you put a vial of DMPS or a DMSA in your energy field, close to your body, and your regulation opens, means most likely that you are heavy metal toxic.
If you are interested, I can show you how to find out whether you have open regulation, or have blocked regulation.
I will not go into it here now, but will explain it as good as I can later.
This method works best with a tensor of any type.
I am not using a pendulum because it simply takes too long to test a number of things. By getting a few materials, you can test for the different infections and co-infections, fungi, viruses, pesticides, insecticides, toxic metals (lead, mercury nickle, etc.) and of course vitamins, hormones, supplements, and whatever I have in my home pharmacy.
Energetic testing of this type tells you what your body is most concerned with at this time.
Practice with your pendulum or tensor to see if you get some action into it. The main thing is a neutral mind and quiet in the house.
Glad to show what open or blocked regulation looks like. All has to do with the very important autonomic nervous system and our reaction to substances that enter our energy field.
It's sort of like the feeling you get when you meet someone new and you felt immediately positive or negative about him/her.
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Please post about open regulation, GiGi. I think you may have posted before but it's good to have a reminder. I didn't learn to dowse that way but it's always good to learn useful techniques.
Even if the person's or practitioner's regulation is cleared/open - there still may be subconscious biases. I guess the thing is to try to get to be as "neutral" as possible.
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GiGi
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I will try to describe how to test with a tensor. Pendulum is very time consuming and tiring if you are ill.
PLEASE BE AWARE that if you are in a serious detox phase or killing phase, the chances that you have blocked regulation, SOMETIMES OR ALL THE TIME like I used to be when I first started, you do not get any true response from energetic testing until you can open your regulation. Your body gives a completely opposite result when blocked.
This is the reason the famous George Goodheart's treatment never worked 100 percent -- he did not take into consideration the blocked autonomic nervous system.
Recognizing that factor many years ago made it possible for Dr. K. to develop Autonomic Response Testing which definitely works, as long as that blocked or open regulation is taken into account. His method is much more refined, but for personal use, the tensor works very well.
This is how I learned to do it:
To check if regulation is open can be done in various ways. I learned and prefer to put the five finger tips of my left hand on top of my head; then let the tensor swing; it will go into one direction, usually up and down.
Then take the right hand off the head and solidly hold your very outstretched palm closing the ear for a couple of seconds. The tensor will swing into the other direction; instead of going up and down, it will start moving right to left in front of you. Do as little moving around with the arms, but move quietly.
If the tensor makes that change, into the up and down, your regulation is open and you are testable.
You could try the same thing by crossing one foot over the other as your second move. That will also change the direction of the tensor if your regulation is open and you are testable.
What you can find out with tensor testing is that if your body resonates with a toxic metal vial/nosode and its frequencies, by moving up and down and not moving away from you, you carry that substance in your body, or your body is fine with the substance you are testing. Common sense rules: If you are testing a mercury vial, you will quickly realize that it being the worst toxin,
If the tensor moves away from you indicating that it does not resonate with the frequencies of the toxic metal vial in your energy field, it is not a current problem for your body to deal with.
If the toxic metal vial frequencies test positive by moving up and down (not flying away from you), it means that you carry these frequencies in your body and that you should consider detoxing the metals.
You can then go ahead and hold a DMSA, HMD, or DMPS vial together with the toxic metal vial. Test yourself again in the same manner, and you will note that the anti-metal substance will negate the toxic metals and "erase" the resonance. That tells you that the anti-metal substance should be effectively treat your metal toxicity.
You can do the very same testing with infections. If you want to know if your body is dealing with Babesia at the present time, get yourself a babesia nosode vial and find out. At the same time you can also test the remedy to treat Babesiosis. If it negates the yes For Babesiosis, you will know that it would work for the infection. You can test your Lyme cocktail against the infections in the same manner.
If you want to test supplements or meds, if they start blocking you/your regulation, you will be able to find out if they should work for you.
There is a simple method to test for allergies toward foods, etc., but I would suggest you practice for a while before getting into this.
Practice, practice and ask questions!
(A tensor is worth every penny that you can use for the rest of your life. .I have been using mine longer than five years. I have a very successful Klinghardt therapy friend who uses nothing except a homemade tensor in her very successful practice always fully booked. Many doctors are using it in practice. I use my tensor almost daily and know that my body wants barely a supplement.
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I have both the biotensor and a pendulum. I love the biotensor, but a friend noticed that I tend to move my hand and influence the results with the biotensor, so now I use the pendulum more often. I don't move my hand when I use it and for me it is more accurate.
Each person may have a preference as to which is better and you definitely need to be open to use it. When I get emotional, forget it!
Gigi's techniques work well. I also put my left hand on my head palm down and see the pendulum move in one direction. Flipping my hand over on top of my head should make it go in the other direction if I am open.
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lax mom
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Does ART testing from long-distance using DNA swab work?
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lax mom,
ART testing cannot be done on the same basis as long distance testing can be done. It is a different method. I don't know of anyone who does ART long distance. Saliva testing is a different story, but even then, it makes a big different knowing and having personally met and examined a patient.
Much of ART testing relates to certain organs and areas, and if the body is not present, how can a doctor find that an old scar or an emotional conflict or dental problems or a liver hard as a brick are contributors to the disease process and the energy field of a person. ART testing can find toxins in specific areas if necessary.
Energetic testing is different from "Department Store Testing", i.e. "is this or that good for me."
Many people, if they have been ill for a long time, are really on major overload of toxins, having done and tried numerous therapies that only got them to be more toxic, and it takes time to unravel some of the "damage" done. Finding the toxic burden and initiating lightening of the load cannot be done by a saliva sample.
I have often been tested long distance, with other methods, by people who know me intimately. But even at that point, I would not stake my health on that. A good doctor knows more by the first handshake and the first look at you than many lab tests can reveal. I have heard this more than once from my doctor. In fact when I saw my doctor the first time, he told me "don't tell me -- I make my own diagnosis".
Even on first visits, treatments are done that simply cannot be done without the body present. And oftentimes continuing treatment without these very necessary first treatments make further treatments not possible or productive.
I hope I explained this well enough from my own experiences over the years.
Take care.
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Your explanation was very clear.
Is there anyway to contact you Gigi? I have a long distance Skype video phone appt scheduled with Nurse A.R. from WA who is going to be doing long distance testing using a swab of DNA from my mouth and all of my medicines/supplements.
On her website it says "long distance ART Autonomic Reflex Testing".
I wanted to see Dr K...badly...I can't detox the toxins nor the bugs nor the meds to kill the bugs, but couldn't do the 5 day appt with the other practioners at S.H.I. prior to ever being a pt of Dr K...because the ND would decide the point that I would ever be placed into Dr K's schedule. So, I scheduled this Skype phone appt with Nurse A.R.
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Please do not use this as a reliable test. That was one of the first experiments we did in high school science. As long as you are holding onto the string, ouiji board, etc. your subconscious mind will tamper with the results. If you just had the string tied to a bar without touching NOTHING will happen.
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For me the question Is the subconscious mind tampering or interpreting?
I think of it as letting my autonomic nervous system speak.
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GiGi
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Of course nothing happens when the bar has no connection to the body energy field. We have to understand that everything we touch, see and feel has a frequency, and the frequency either resonates with what is in us or it does not resonate. If the formaldehyde in the CherylSue's bar resonates with our body, you can determine that our body has some formaldehyde in it, as long as the bar is in close proximity to us. In this case, logic tells us that it is a toxin and not good for us.
Now, finding the anti-toxin is the trick. And we can then treat to remove the formaldehyde.
The subconscious mind has nothing to do with it and is the mind is best kept in neutral. The autonomics will respond as long as the system is not totally blocked by the toxins, and that would mean unblocking the system first with the right remedy.
You all have heard of the glass that was broken by a singer's voice: Sound has a frequency, and it resonates with a certain glass and in this case breaks it!
This method of testing - i.e. ART, kinesiology, tensor testing, pendulum -- is what got me well. Nothing else. I lived in a brain fog and pain for many months, with abx, until I was tested on this basis (by Dr. K.) and though it still took a long time to get rid of all the toxins, Lyme was treated with the proper anti's It takes to understand some physics and a well trained physician who can see beyond the spirochete.
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