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Ellen101
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Has anyone with a hayfever allergy done well on herbals? I know I have seasonal allergies, not sure if it's hayfever, but suspecting it is. If I decided to go the herba route I want to make sure I won't be allergic [Roll Eyes]
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I am curious too.
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Hay fever (or spring and fall allergies) is more than allergy to ragweed. It is all the grasses and weeds and trees that sprout and push out pollens in spring in fall. many herbs are simply weeds or in the weed family.

I am wondering how concentrated herbals like Samento and banderol are? Are the potent plant tinctures or are they more homeopathic where it is so diluted and removed from the herb.

I know I sneeze when I take milk thistle (also related to ragweed)

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Samento and Banderol are not homeopathic, they are actual herbal tinctures. An allergy to herbs is possible (personal experience).

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GMO foods can CAUSE all kinds of allergies.

"Leaky Gut" (a result of various factors) can also play havoc with how well we manage certain foods (and herbs are food).

Considerations with food additives and processed foods:

Excitotoxins; MSG; Aspartame; & "Natural" Flavors;

GMO foods that destroy the GI Tract; Gluten; Dairy.

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When considering herbal / nutritional / adjunct methods:

if at all possible - because each person & each case is different - it's best to consult with an ILADS-educated LL (lyme literate) doctor who has completed four years of post-graduate medical education in the field of herbal and nutritional medicine -

- and someone who is current with ILADS' research & presentations, past and present.

Many LL NDs incorporate antibiotics (depending upon the licensing laws in their state). Some LLMDs and LL NDs have good working relationships.

When possible, it's great to have both a LLMD and LL ND and even better when they have a long-standing professional relationship.

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http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/2/13964

How to find an ILADS-educated LL:

N.D. (Naturopathic Doctor);

L.Ac. (Acupuncturist);

D.Ay. (Doctor of Ayurvedic Medicine);

D.O.M. (Doctor of Oriental Medicine);

Integrative / Holistic M.D., etc. (Be aware that those in this category can have various levels of formal herbal &/or nutritional education, perhaps even just a short course. Do ask first.)

Links to many articles and books by holistic-minded LL doctors of various degrees who all have this basic approach in common:

Understanding of the importance of addressing the infection(s) fully head-on with specific measures from all corners of medicine;

knowing which supplements have direct impact, which are only support and which are both.

You can compare and contrast many approaches.

BASIC HERBAL EDUCATIONAL & SAFETY links . . . .
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The herb, STINGING NETTLE may serve to compensate for "allergy" (& also for herxheimer) reaction by calming the the cytokine storm.

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http://www.anniesremedy.com/herb_detail107.php

Annie�s Remedy site

Nettle: Medicinal Uses & Benefits

Excerpt:

. . . containing protein, calcium, phosphorus, iron, magnesium, beta-carotene, along with vitamins A,C, D, and B complex . . . .

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From "The One Earth Herbal Sourcebook" (Tillotson, et. al.)

http://oneearthherbs.squarespace.com/important-herbs/stinging-nettle-urtica-dioica.html

STINGING NETTLE (Urtica dioica)

Excerpts:

. . . Nettle leaf extracts reduce inflammation, in part, by suppressing the release of inflammatory cytokines.

They do this by blocking a chemical inducer known as NF-KappaB, which alters gene expresion. This may be one explanation for the beneficial efffects this herb has exhibited in rheumatoid arthritis (Riehemann et al., 1999). . . .

. . . its ability to slow down the inflammatory cytokine response caused by endotoxins. . . .


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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=Stinging%2BNettle

PubMed Search:

Stinging+Nettle - 335 abstracts

Urtica dioica - 301 abstracts

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http://www.mountainroseherbs.com/cap/l-r.html#csh_c_net

Mountain Rose Herbs has Organic Nettle Leaf Capsules and powder

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http://www.iherb.com/Eclectic-Institute-Stinging-Nettle-90-Veggie-Caps/2937?at=0

Eclectic Institute Fresh Freeze Dried Nettle Root

Each Capsule Contains: Stinging Nettle (Urtica dioica) leaf, wildcrafted and 100% fresh freeze-dried, 300 mg.

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http://www.mountainroseherbs.com/learn/nettle_leaf.php

Stinging Nettle powder from Mountain Rose Herbs (Oregon)


http://www.mountainroseherbs.com/newsletter/10/may/nettles.php

The Nature of Nettles � by Mary Jane Butters
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Razzle posted:

For Lyme-related joint pain, Buhner recommends Nettles 1200mg/day.

I have found Nettles (I use organic powdered nettle leaves) to be fantastic for relief of my joint pain - including the wandering joint pain in my legs, arthritic hand pain, etc.

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Kudzuslipper
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Oh look at this great link! If you scroll down it goes into where the herbal tinctures are from and what they treat.

http://www.squidoo.com/common-herbs-used-to-treat-lyme-disease

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