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Jamers
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I feel like Im going crazy lately. Recently, my moods have been all over the place. You name it I've probably experienced it in the last week.

The depression has been the worst, yesterday I was ready to throw in the towel. I have no interest in being social, every person I speak with completely annoys me. My husband is tired of me not socializing. I cried almost 12 hours straight yesterday because I thought my husband was hitting on another girl...overreact much?

I just feel so overwhelmed by these mood issues and I need to figure out what infection may be causing this...

It does flare around my menstrual cycle. It isn't from the idea of being sick, its definitely caused by an infection because I cannot control it.

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Diagnosed Pos. Lyme Nov. 17, 2010, Igx.
Pos. Babesia Duncani March 2011, Igx.
Clinical diagnosis for Bartonella

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I have found that my emotions get way out of control around my menstral cycle...
Are you menopausal at all?
Ive noticed as ive gotten older and premenopausal
the swings have gotten worse and all over the place as my hormones levels are not stable..

but also I became very anti social when I was really sick...I did not have the energy to carry on a conversation..
its hard for people to understand unless they have been that sick..
I used to be very social and then came close to being a complete shut in.

Try to push your self to get out and do something when you have some good days...
I usually always felt a little better when I did
but I know its hard...

Evening primrose oil 2000-3000 daily helps alot with the mood swings
plus having a good support system like this one to talk to people and know that your not alone...
take care...

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Do you have hyperacusis (sound sensitivity)?

Visual sensitivities? Just overwhelmed with "input" from conversations?

All that goes with lyme and can explain why you may make the assumption that you are "anti-social" when, in fact, that might not be correct.

Liver support, Adrenal support - in addition to good fats as suggested above can help. Maybe your support supplements need some revamping but also realize that, when ill, we require more alone time. It's a medical need.

If you are overwhelmed, that's an important sign to not push the things that add to the stress. You can find other ways to be part of the world that will fit with your medical needs.


You say you need to figure out which infection is causing this. That may not be necessary or even possible.

As long as your LLMD has / is / will be considering your total load with appropriate anti-infective combination, it's important to know that

ANY infection can cause mood troubles. INFLAMMATION is the main SUPPORT aspect to address.

Anti-oxidants (which are what most liver support supplements are) should help, in addition to good fatty acids, enough protein and other good nutrition.


http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=030792;p=0

LIVER SUPPORT & and several HERXHEIMER support links, too.


http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/1/89790

Topic: NATURAL SLEEP & ADRENAL SUPPORT
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If you have hyperacusis or ANY vestibular symptom, THAT could explain why your body (and mood) needs to limit sensory overload (which is not the same as being "anti-social").

http://www.vestibular.org/understanding-vestibular-disorder/symptoms

Vestibular Symptoms

(Note, just about everything on this list can be from lyme or other stealth infection).

Correct what you can in your environment.

Avoid big box stores, fluorescent lights even at home (energy-saving bulbs) for they can be like the kiss of death to our sense of balance, literal and figurative.

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http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=065801

Topic: TINNITUS: Ringing Between The Ears; Vestibular, Balance, Hearing with compiled links - including HYPERACUSIS
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www.vrp.com/inflammation/inflammations-link-to-anger-and-hostility

Inflammation�s Link to Anger and Hostility

- by Nieske Zabriskie, ND - 2012
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Just one of many good antioxidants, Berberine has helped me to decrease inflammation in my brain and body.


http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=121034;p=0

BERBERINE � LINKS SET
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Wow!!
Im glad I got in on this conversation!!
thank you Keebler...
I have all of the above!!!
lights bother me...sounds...
im also having focal siezures...

thank you for the information [Smile] )

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If you have seizures, you really need to avoid ALL fluorescent lights. If you plan to go to others' homes during the holiday, talk to them in advance and ask if you can bring some of your own regular light bulbs.

Also asked to be warned in advance of ANY photo flashes.

Links in all the threads above should help, too. More detail here:

http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=119810;p=0

Topic: Best way to control limbic seizures/overactivity?

Many LINKS
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Jamers
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LovesPugs- Thanks for your input. No, Im not menopausal unless the lyme has caused it...Im 29.

I definitely have the feeling like I do not have the energy to carry a conversation. I feel like Im losing a lot of friendships over it lately or that people are offended that I dont want to "chat"

I think I'll try the evening primrose oil though.

Keebler- Thank you also! I do not have any problems with sounds but I do feel overstimulated when Im around too many people or someone that talks a lot.

I've really thought that adrenal issues play a part in this. After your advice I really think that needs to be addressed. As well as antioxidants.

My LLMD mentioned an adrenal product called PHyto-ADR by metagenics. Have you heard of this or can you recommend a good adrenal supp?

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Diagnosed Pos. Lyme Nov. 17, 2010, Igx.
Pos. Babesia Duncani March 2011, Igx.
Clinical diagnosis for Bartonella

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I found that name by a different brand. Is this ingredient list the same as what your doctor suggests? Just clink onto the "ingredients" tab.

If so, it looks excellent. Also an excellent brand.


http://www.naturalhealthyconcepts.com/phyto-adr-PE60-p-pure-encapsulations.html?gclid=CKWynsLg37MCFUlxQgodNzMAsQ

PHyto-ADR by Pure Encapsulations
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Also, remember that we are ill. I know many of us think if we just take the anti-infective measures and support supplements that we should be able to be "normal" and keep calm and carry on, chin up and all that. But it's not usually so, for most of us.

I know that because most doctors discount chronic lyme and have no clue as to all the complexities and other infections and conditions that go along with that, that we may tend to just wonder every single day, then why can't we feel normal?

I know that with the media downplaying lyme at nearly ever turn and family and friends not having opportunity to have a clear picture that we can tend to wonder, why, then, each day am I not all better?

Remember, though, if you had the flu would you wonder if you were anti-social?

If you were in a coma, would you?

Lyme has many of us somewhere in between. And our bodies just need rest to get better. The sensory messages come at us loud and strong - and our bodies do best avoiding all that influx. Our bodies need calm to get better.

Choose activities very carefully. Your energy bank can't afford to get overdrawn.
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Jamers, in addition to all the excellent advice,i just think this horrible disease just tekes it out of you. You don't feel well,your body is being assualtednot only by bugs,but by thecurees as well.

Are you on anything that could cause depression I have heard mepron mentioned. I know I finally figured out that I would get severlely depressed and waterfall crying every two weeks when I pulsed flagyl. Once I figured it out it was easier to deal with...just like the premenstrual blues...if you know what's causing it you can at lest try. To laugh it off.

I also get the husband being sick of you being sick. I am feeling that too. He just wants his wife back.

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Keebler- Yes, thats the supplement by Pure Encapsulations, I had it wrong.

I also agree with your insight above. I sometimes ask people who ask why Im so quiet now "How do you feel like when you have the flu?" Not very energetic or social. They just dont understand how I can feel like this for so long.

Kudzuslippper-I actually am on Mepron but it only gets really bad when I have my menstrual cycle so its not bad all the time. I figured if it was from the Mepron I would feel depressed all the time. I wonder if this could be my lyme cycle once a month...

I think my husband wants his wife back too but the pressure to perform when I feel awful just adds stress and makes me more overwhelmed.

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Jamers, sorry you are going through this. Below is a really good story that explains what it is like for someone with an 'invisible disease' to get through the day. Maybe if you share with your husband, he will better understand what you are going through.

http://www.butyoudontlooksick.com/articles/written-by-christine/the-spoon-theory/

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i've just adjusted to being anti-social. husband says i'm a hermit. but frankly i just can't take all the constant chatter and activity of having others around.

i like being alone. i watch what i want to on tv, cook what i can, clean as i can.

going out to restaurants or stores gives me a bad headache, the noise, the traffic, and restaurants are so loud nowadays. the music is booming you can't even hear talking. people are on cell phones and practically shouting at each other.

i've just gotten used to it. depression, yeah, could be. but i've just realized my limits and accepted them.

oh sure, i still stand in the shower and cry sometimes, but then i think of others who are much worse off and i quit real fast.

i'm a loner and that's just something that lyme gave me.

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Jamers, I can't really offer any advice but I experience the same thing. Keebler has some valid points there though. Who knows exactly which issue is to blame for this symptom, but it's awful.

Dpei, thanks so much for that link. It's a great way to explain this disease. In fact, I think I may share it with certain in laws that are less than understanding. It brought a tear to my eye. Thanks.

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Jamers,

I have a slightly different perspective on this issue.

As Keebler said, the issue that you're dealing with is probably caused by inflammation of your brain. Many of us experience the intolerance to sound or light (or both). In my case, it's sound that really irritates me.

For example, we have a house full of company for Thanksgiving this weekend. The house was already quite loud with people talking, laughing, kids screaming, and a football game blaring on the television. I was playing cards with some of the relatives when one of them pulled out his phone and began playing Christmas music on it, along with several of them singing along. My sensory overload was severe and it was all I could do to not burst out in a tyrade! Obviously, I didn't and endured the misery until the game was over.

My point is that we've got to remember that we're not the only people on earth. It is miserable to have lyme and horrible to be assaulted by loud sounds and light. However, if we want to keep our families and friends, we've got to be able to endure some of the pain and do the things that our "normal" friends and family members do. We are not the only people in the world with problems and we can not expect others to act like we are; nor to bend over backwards to accomodate us. That would happen in a perfect world, but as we all know - this world is far from perfect.

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