Topic: Parasite treatment is kicking my butt!! wha can i do?
gigimac
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So I have tried salt c and it was hard on me. So I thought I would try parastroy low dose and see if I can handle that better.
Well I have just been taking a quarter of a capsule and upped that to a half a capsule a few days ago. After going up to half a capsule I felt very bad and I am not taking anything now.
Why do antiparasitics make me feels so awful? It seems like everyone else tolerates everything better than me.
i must have a bad infestation if my reaction is any indication of parasite load!!
i already do detox baths, activated charcoal, bentonite clay, just started taking mila, don't really like chlorella and thinking about trying DE but don't want to add anything else that kills parasites just yet.
I am planning to start doing ce's. was gonna do one last night but didn't know if i had the right water.
Is there anything else anyone can recommend?? I really want to find a way to tackle these parasites without feeling like dying in the mean time.
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glm1111
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Killing parasites is not always easy, but in the long run it will save your life. You can try pulsing the Parastroy every other day to see if that helps.
The same with salt/c at a very low dose. Ideally you sound like you would benefit from a Dr.K. trained practioner who does ART.
Gael
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lax mom
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quote:Originally posted by glm1111: Ideally you sound like you would benefit from a Dr.K. trained practioner who does ART.
I agree with Gael. I tried Humaworm on my own and it made me feel dizzy and a bit weird.
My Dr K trained ART practitioner RX'd me Biltricide and Pyrantel Pamoate. I had an easier time with those (the Pyrantel wiped me out...but everything seems to).
Tammy N.
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I really think the coffee enemas will be a big help to you. Hang in there. You are on the right path.
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GiGi
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You may want to learn about colonics. They saved my butt many years ago when I was really really sick.
Parasite treatments should always be followed with some colonics. The longer the dead material stays inside, the worse one feels. Enemas reaching only a short distance (about 1 foot) are not enough. Colonics done by a certified professional reach up 5 feet and help clearing some of the very old deposits.
You also avoid reabsorbing toxins with colonics.
Yes, by all means, try to find someone to guide you in treatment who does ART. Or learn to test yourself eventually. Your body will tell you what it can take if you learn to ask.
Best wishes.
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lax mom
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Gigi: I finished a round of anti-parasitics 2 wks ago and feel like crap.
Is it too late to have a colonic? or has everything been reabsorbed already?
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My opinion, I would go straight to ivermectin which is used in other countries for lyme, babs, and parasites . It is more of a broad spectrum and boy do you really herx . I have taken it every other day for 8 months and it is not so hard now .
I would do Dr K's parasite protocol and rotate the meds. I think you are more likely to really get rid of parasites . Others here may disagree , just my 2 cent$ .
I also would not take the meds everyday unless you want to stay in bed all day . Even taking them every other day Was rough for about four months .
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I am also doing parasite meds (ivermectin and albendazole) plus some cloves. In general, these REALLY knock my socks off, I herx really bad if I'm not careful. I'm also taking abx.
For example, with the ivermectin I took a TINY dose (about 10% of what would normally be prescribed) and herxed pretty hard. I've spent about two months gradually increasing the amount, but I only take it every other day so I don't get into trouble. Nevertheless, I see results!
With the albendazole I made the mistake of taking the full recommended dose the doctor prescribed, two tablets one day and the other two tablets two weeks later. Both times I took it, I had a HORRIBLE herx and with the second one the worst headache I ever had in my life. And a tremendous amount of dead parasites showed up. Now I am very, very gradually starting albendazole again, in very small amounts and on alternate days to the ivermection. So I'm kind of using the curezone method but more gradual.
I really think that, no matter what method people are using to deal with parasites, it has to be slow and careful.
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dbpei
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Are there any good websites explaining coffee enemas and colonics for those like me who tend to worry about the safety of both? Posts: 2380 | From New England | Registered: Aug 2011
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glm1111
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lax mom,
If you still don't feel well after you've finished antiparasitics, it's probably because you're still infected and you need to go back on them whether herbs or pharmas. You might want to consider salt/c as well.
Getting rid of parasites is an ongoing project because these parasites have laid hundreds of thousands of eggs a day. If you're symptomatic, you are still infected.
Getting rid of parasites can take SEVERAL YEARS!! Yes, colonics or warm water/coffee enemas are also important, but you need to continue with antiparasitics.
Gael
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lax mom
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Gael: I'm not finished with my parasite treatment. I'm just following my NP's orders and waiting 3 wks to do some more Pyrantel and 6 wks for Biltricied.
I guess I need to do something else for parasites in the meantime. Especially if my symptoms have me wanting to try to do the same thing I did before (massive abx) expecting different results
glm1111
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lax,
I just don't get why the NP would tell you to wait 3 weeks when you obviously have an active infection of parasites. I know the theory of building up a tolerance etc., but I just don't think it applies.
To me it's like stopping abx in the middle of a very bad infection. These parasites have layed hundreds of thousands of eggs and keep hatching.
They also carry bacteria, yeast and heavy metal. I am not a doctor, but if it were me I would get back on some herbal antiparasitics and or salt/c ASAP!
Also chlorella for binding metals, coconut oil and kefir would be a good idea along with warm water enemas.
Gael
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lax mom
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I don't know either. I thought it had something to do with their life cycles?
I have a Skype appt on Tues, I will mention it.
I can't do chlorella, but I am doing Mila. I need to start the Salt/C and add cocunut oil and kefir.
glm1111
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Would really like to hear his view on this. And thanks for the validation on the new sig. Just thought the timing was right.
Keep us posted.
Gael
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AuntyLynn
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glm1111 -
I see your new signature line about parasites being considered the #1 coinfection!
Do you have an official statement we could pass around? My mom had what was diagnosed as "IBS" several years ago, and has significan neuro-cognitive issues. (Always wondered about this with her.) Thanks!
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glm1111
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AuntyLynn,
Someone posted it here right after/during the recent ILADS conference, but can't remember who. That's where I saw it. Hopefully they will see your question and can help you with that and post it again.
Sorry, I can't be of more help, but IBS can be a great indicator of a parasitic infection. Check the symptom list at Humaworm for IBS symptoms.
Gael
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glm1111
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P. S.
It was Dr. H. who made the statement if that helps.
Gael
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lax mom
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Lax, is the mila getting your intestinal tract back to normal (hope so)?
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glm1111
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GOOD JOB lax mom!! Thanks for the effort. You deserve a long nap and a chocolate chip cookie.
Gael
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