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Tincup
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Sorry! Gotta laugh at this unbelievable mess of a study that someone with NO prior publications on Pub-Med authored...

Along with another author, Mr. Fish Guts, who has over 1,000 publications that seem to revolve a lot around fish, their guts, whiptail lizards and their serious mental health issues.

For example, some of the 2nd authors publications include:

'Winner effect' without winning: unresolved social conflicts increase the probability of winning a subsequent contest in a cichlid fish.

And... Effect of wave exposure dynamics on gut content mass and growth of young-of-the-year fishes in the littoral zone of lakes.

(Wonder if this fish guts author analyzes everything, like rocks and jelly beans to check their mental health too?)

[lol]

With a third author having six publications only (all in the past two years), all relating to somatoform and MUS (multiple unexplained symptoms), with an amazing comment you will just simply adore...

"Mental comorbidity, female sex, dissatisfaction with care, and a problematic countertransference (the interviewer's feelings towards the patient) independently predicted MUS."

So these dudes, doing in a study in a LYME CLINIC, can't figure out what is wrong with Lyme patients and label THEM with having multiple unexplained symptoms? Seems someone should check to see if they are actually doctors (or humans) and report them if they are for being so, well, uh, uh, uh, stupid.

So, guess I just gotta say darn it all! Mr. Dumb, Dumber and Dumbest think we're all nuts.

Good grief!

[lol]


Psychosomatics. 2012 Dec 27. pii: S0033-3182(12)00162-4. doi: 10.1016/j.psym.2012.08.012.

Patients with "Organically Unexplained Symptoms" Presenting to a Borreliosis Clinic: Clinical and Psychobehavioral Characteristics and Quality of Life.

Csallner G, Hofmann H, Hausteiner-Wiehle C.
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Klinik und Poliklinik f�r Dermatologie und Allergologie am Biederstein, Technische Universit�t M�nchen (TUM), Germany; Klinik und Poliklinik f�r Psychosomatische Medizin und Psychotherapie, Technische Universit�t M�nchen (TUM), Germany.

Abstract

OBJECTIVE:

This study explores the prevalence of patients with "organically unexplained symptoms" presenting to a Lyme borreliosis clinic and describes their clinical and psychobehavioral characteristics as well as health-related quality of life.

METHODS:

Study instruments consisted of a set of self-rating questionnaires and a organicity rating of presentingsymptoms by an acknowledged expert. Participants included 125 patients presenting with symptoms attributed toborreliosis. Clinical and psychobehavioral characteristics as well as health-related quality of life for patients whose symptoms were rated as "organically unexplained" were compared with those of patients whose symptoms were rated as "organically explained."

RESULTS:

Symptoms of 37 (30%) patients were rated as "organically unexplained" (ORG-) and symptoms of 88 (70%) patients were rated as "organically explained" (ORG+). ORG- differed from ORG+ in various clinical and psychobehavioral characteristics and in health-related quality of life.

For example, ORG- reported a higher number of symptoms, more illness consequences and negative emotional illness representations, and felt less reassured in the medical context, more dissatisfied with medical care, and more convinced of having a serious illness.

CONCLUSIONS:

Our results suggest that patients with "organically unexplained symptoms" inadequately attributed to Lyme borreliosis reveal many clinical and psychobehavioral characteristics that indicate significant somatic and mental distress.

An early focus on all of the patients' mental and bodily symptoms, as well as on subjective illness perceptions and consequences allows for a more specific plan.

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Tincup
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As I read it, seems the study authors don't believe there is anything wrong with people with fibromyalgia syndrome or chronic fatigue syndrome either.

I think I'll dub this the "Roger Miller" study, IF Roger Miller wouldn't be insulted!

Do Wacka Do!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UI-Y0CMGwxo

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A friend just commented that although they don't read German, it appears the researchers work at a university Dermatology and Allergy clinic and a clinic for psychosomatic medicine and psychotherapy.

Trolling for patients I guess?

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No STOP it!!! I'm REALLY laughing now! Just finished reading it again.

Quickly looking through their references I noted some of the BIG TOADS of the Lyme world were plastered all over that section!

Wormser, Dattwyler, Sigal, Shapiro, Halperin, Steere, Klempner...

... and them foreign dudes too... Stanek and Strle from the IDSA guidelines!

....and OH NO, it's Feder, Johnson and O�Connell too!

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oh happy days!

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I think these guys are just proving their stupidity with this kind of stuff...

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At the rate they're going, pretty soon they're gonna try to rename Lyme to Delusional Borreliosis.

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[lol]

Like that one!!!

They will get their due. When you sell your soul to the devil, thats a given.

[Big Grin]

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If it is "organically unexplained" then we can give blood and donate our organs?

Of course not!

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