Topic: Has anyone tried Whole Body Vibration for Lymph Drainage ?
lymetwister
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I recently bought one of these off of ebay for around $400.00.
Supposedly, it gives one good Lymph drainage. Most people buy these and they are showing up in Gyms now and other Healthcare facilities b/c they claim they give you a 60 min. workout in just 10 minutes of standing on this platform while it vibrates.
I only used it once so far as after I got off it, I felt real sick. I started sweating like 15 min. after I got off, but my symptoms really flared bad, so I'm not sure if I did actually move some stuff out of the Lymphatic System, or I made the bacteria mad, etc.
Anyone else ?
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GiGi
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Gary, I responded to you yesterday and my comments are not a different now: You are knocking off too many toxins without protecting yourself with binders, without kidney and liver support.
All of these different machines do just that - they mobilize. They are wonderful if you know what you are doing!
Protect your kidneys and liver and stop mobilizing until you clear some of the toxins out.
Get a couple of colonics in a row from a certified practitioner. You can unload with that, aka a liver dump. You will be surprised how bad this looks.
Lymphatic drainage can be done with the most gentle touch to the skin stroking it into the direction of the exit points. You do not need a forceful vibration machine. A tiny tip of the fingers on the different body areas � that you can barely feel being touched - --- that is how it is done by professional, certified lymphatic drainage persons. It is not, not a forceful massage or anything of that kind.
If you google lymphatic system, you can see how delicate this system is. If it is clogged up, it is bad, because you cannot release the toxins nor can you take up the good nutrients. If you feel the two glands under your chin, they are swollen and need help. We have lymphatic glands all over the body.
I have a Galileo,a vibration machine, that I often use for a few minutes after my Jane Fonda 1 mile Walkout, but I would never do it when I am on super overload, because it mobilizes even more.
As I mentioned before, the kidney nephrons die and remain dead. They do not regenerate. Treat them with the greatest of care. Going to Dialysis for 4 hours at some hospital every week is no fun!!!!!
These all help ---- plus the ones I mentioned to you yesterday.
Be careful. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Keebler
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- These whole body vibrating platforms can be very dangerous for many reasons - for anyone with inner/middle ear &/or adrenal dysfunction - and all that goes with lyme.
It can also be dangerous for anyone with any kind of a seizure disorder (not uncommon with lyme). -
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Keebler
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- The phone rang so I could not elaborate and my ability to so, anyway, is limited. I'll try to make a few points as to why I'm so emphatic but can't really properly round those out.
1. I tried this years ago, before I even knew I had lyme. At a gym. I got so very ill. Tried a could times after that, always, got so very ill.
Car sick, raised to the 100th degree sort of stuff, dizzy, sweating, literally felt like I was going to die and it took days to regain my normal.
Later, the vestibular issues would come to light and that would make more sense.
For anyone with active stealth infections and all that goes along, the inner/middle ear (vestibular) system is often very much irritated.
The toxins from infections and from medicines also affect the ears.
The nerve fibers often don't have the proper myelin sheath protective layer. Such vibration can cause all kinds of "haywire" "alert" "abort" messages for the nerves.
The adrenal system would get the message that the body is going through an attack.
Etc.
Now, as with GiGi, when one is further along in treatment - and even well as she is - and if their body can tolerate some vibration, it may be fine.
Still, for anyone who is still very ill, I just worry that such a vibrating machine can do a lot of damage.
That you are sweating and felt so ill after being on the machine is a huge red light warning alarm. I would not be surprised if your cardiac system were not also say "whoa" "not good!"
But, my guess is that your inner/middle ear zooms into "motion sickness" and signals all other body systems.
If it is a machine that you got, I hope you can return it. I know it's frustrating and - in theory - at first thought - it sounds like a nice idea, shake up the body a bit to get stuff moving.
But these machines can be very destructive to some bodies that require more gentle approaches.
Do take care. -
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Keebler
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- Those with any kind of inner/middle ear issues should also be very cautious about a rebounder (mini-trampoline).
"Very cautious" actually means "avoid them" as they can really cause trauma to inner/middle ear tissue that is swollen and otherwise compromised.
Such bouncing can also "bruise" the brain for those with lyme who have issues of swelling in the brain (as is common).
However, for some who don't have those issues, VERY LIGHT bouncing where the feet don't even leave the mat can be very helpful fro the lymph.
But, just walking, even strolling,
warm baths (never hot), LOW heat sauna (not hot),
massage (some specifically fashioned for lymph - and it's very gentle),
Qi Gong or Tai Chi are the safer ways to move lymph. -
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Keebler
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- Beyond all the physiological reasons I posted for vibrating machines' potential damage to someone with active lyme,
you asked if this "made the bacteria mad"?
It could. I have read that spirochetes HATE, HATE, HATE vibration & heat. When confronted with such will spew forth more toxins but also then burrow deeper to try to avoid the assault -
- and also convert into cyst form, as a protective measure, where they can sort of "cocoon" themselves until they want to come back out.
So that can also explain a lot.
Remember, too, that vibration can also be music with a heavy beat. While those with inner ear involvement may feel ill around such music, that can be from the force on the inner ear system and spirochete's reacion, too.
Even a BOSE CD player can be far too much air force for some with inner ear troubles but any steroe equipment with the "bass" set high (or even on at all) can make some folks feel very ill.
So, if just a stereo can do that, imagine how many times more irritating a vibration plate can be to the body.
When the brain tissue is swollen, nerves are inflamed, ears are tender, adrenals are challenged . . . tender loving care is always the safest approach. A walk in the park is a good speed. -
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