Topic: What causes pain really ? Other than inflammation ?
springshowers
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Who knows?
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Carol in PA
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Lack of oxygen and nutrients to the cells.
A deficiency of Vitamin B12 will cause neuropathy, or pain in the nerves.
A deficiency of Vitamin D will cause bone pain. You can test for this by pressing hard on your lower shin.
A build up of lactic acid will cause muscle soreness. This can happen when you exercise.
When you don't reach the deepest stage of sleep, the body doesn't make Human Growth Hormone, and the little muscle tears do not heal. So you wake up feeling like you got hit by a truck.
In the intestines, you will feel pain if they are stretched or distended, like when you have gas. Or when there is an intestinal blockage.
Hypercoagulation causes less oxygen to reach the cells, and results in pain and headaches. When I treated for hypercoagulation with Wobenzym, a systemic enzyme, my body pain and headaches were reduced.
When there is a magnesium deficiency, the muscles can cramp, causing pain. This is one cause of a stiff neck.
The author worked with leprosy patients, who lose the ability to feel pain. This results in damage to their body, as when one man picked up something out of the hot coals of a cooking fire, burning himself but not feeling it.
If you don't want to buy the book, you can read the reviews and use the "Look Inside" feature to read part of it. This book reads more like a novel.
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I think pain can be cause by too many toxins in the body. I don't know what exactly the chemistry is. I know that I felt better after I treated parasites.
The other issue may be metals & EMFs. I believe that the metals can act as an antennae. I know GiGi posted about it...
This is just some stuff I'm working now. I tried all of the supplements that are supposed to help inflammation, fibrinogen, etc. & nothing worked for me.
It's was dealing with parasites that helped me the most in the past. Now, I think I might be having a problem with EMFs.
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Parasites can cause excruciating pain, in the joints, muscles, back and thighs, as well as burning in the stomach.
Roundworms lay 200,000 eggs a day and when this infection disseminates it can invade all of the tissues, organs and muscles.
Liver flukes can cause pain in that area of the body. Muscles cramps are also on the list for parasites and was part of my experience.
Just from personal experience, getting rid of TONS of parasites has eliminated very severe pain that I had. It was so bad I had to take morphine.
I have witnessed tiny parasites exiting the bones in my wrist. They scab first and then when I picked them a tiny parasite would emerge.
I believe the salt/c protocol made them exit, because they can't stand it. Welcome back to the board springshowers!! Great to see you again. Hope you are doing well.
Gael
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Hi Thanks for the info and book references and ideas Seems pain is my lingering and last yo ho symptom for most past and fatigue . But so many of my huge list have gone away literally or improved to 90 percent better .
I am decreasing pain meds for first time in forever so its getting better but I have felt I can't really get a handle on the cause.
Gael so glad yo see you too ! I hope your great ! Are you continually still improving? If parasites are causative - which I agree - is the mechanism though that they cause result if inflammation to the tissues and areas they reside ? Making it still inflammation as what is the real cause even if its a chain reaction. My doctor does explain it like this but I do notice my SED rate fluctuates and even when low pain is not better. Maybe SED rate isn't a good enough market to use ?
Anyway . Do you agree parasites cause inflammation which causes the pain?
All the other things listed I think are important too and it could me a combination I guess.
I also assume since pain has been so heightened and active for so long that it will lag in the prices of getting f better to go away as it feels as of the body just like gets used to and Remembers and just stays with it as the normal and needs to be trained and coaxed to reduce and calm down slowly over time even after infections are under control .
Just my own guess I don't really know for sure
Thanks ...me Thanks for welcome back Its been a long time
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Is your pain all over or is it in certain places?
For my all-over pain, taking oral clindamycin took it down to almost zero in one week's time! So obviously I was treating the impact of the bacteria.
For joint and tissue pain, turmeric seems to take that down for me. That, I believe, is still the impact of the bacteria.
For eye pain, I drink mangosteen juice to stop it - that's scarfing up the free radicals produced by the bacteria.
For severe muscle pain, like in my pelvic area, when I could hardly walk, I had to stretch out all the muscles in the pool over 9 months time, before I found out I had Lyme.
So my understanding on that stretching being able to take the pain down to a pretty low level is that oxygen wasn't getting in and waste products weren't getting out - the tissues were highly irritated.
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springshowers
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Hi Mine is all over . I have just twinges of joint pain in elbows and some local in back area of course . But mainly its all over ache like when you have a fever and you just hurt head to toe. Interesting an abx got yours down and so it proves same theory that infection causes inflammation and treating infection should reduce it. No matter what type of infection which could be differenebt for different people , I assume ?
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glm1111
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Spring,
yes I agree that parasites cause inflammation. Sounds like you have fibro pain. Have you ever done salt/c? Are you currently taking anything for parasites?
Gael
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