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nonna05
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May be rushing them. Would that have an influence
on how well it works in treatment

We did a shot yesterday , got some blood, it didn't feel right after starting it.

I had/have a huge lump, some med came back out.


After this much time taking shots, I hope we haven't been missing the mark or doing it wrong.

( I know, worry to much) [Roll Eyes]

What happens if it's in the wrong spot?
Maybe did it to fast? Huge bump...ouch !!!!!

Tried to melt it down with heating pad, that just helped pain for a short time..

Today I didn't even start coming around until 5 pm

I thought I had been doing better.....Tonight I feel so bummed out.

I'm not getting solid sleep., in and out for hours. Really just down for hours.

Kept feeling bad twitching/ cramping all over both legs and the bump is hurting ..not hospital level hurt.

So anyway....I thought for sure we were in muscle. Now who knows.

It is hard to tell because that is no small bumb behind me.

I will say I can feel a bit more strength lately.
Even though there's pain all over.

[ 02-27-2013, 09:46 PM: Message edited by: nonna05 ]

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Bicillin is a great drug! My first shot made me real stiff for days, and I had a golf-ball sized lump where I got the injection.

The several shots since have been light-years better. I attribute it to letting the shot sit out from the fridge a little longer (1-2 hours).

I also make sure to be fairly active after the shot. I have to move the muscle and walk to help.

Also, make sure you massage it for several minutes afterward.

When you get the shot, are you relaxing your muscle completely?

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I didn't understand when you said you got blood...did you have blood work at the same time, or did you aspirate blood when you did the injection?!

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This would happen sometimes when I gave my son his injections. Make sure the Bicillin is warmed like Life+Lyme suggested.

I had one LLMD suggest giving the injection over 20 minutes. That was way too long for me. But I did give it over 5-10 minutes. It gives the muscle time and creates less tearing.

If you got blood back when you aspirated, before you started pushing on the plunger to give the shot, then that means you need to try a different spot. You should not see blood in the syringe when you aspirate (pull back on the plunger).

Heat applied to the area after the injection brings more circulation to the area and helps with absorption and the lumping.

I forget who provided this link (sorry I can't give you credit, whoever it was!). Please scroll down to the "intramuscular route" and look at figure 5b. It shows where it is safe to give the injection.
http://www.ykhoa.net/baigiang/dieuduong/vuphong/Skill_kythuattiemantoan.pdf

Best,
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Thanks the site was helpful,,,but does anybody know a site that really makes the position of muscle and where nerves or veins are.

He did forget to aspirate

When I started, doing shots, I could flex to make sure I could feel the muscle, for a while it's been harder to feel it.

When I looked at the picture on that site I couldn't tell where the place/shot actually was. It looked like the side of a leg to me.

This hasn't been/ or I didn't think it had been a issue, with doing shots before.

I've actually have done shot's for years when I could travel, because they use them in other countries for more meds.


Thought we've been doing right place, right way. Was shown a couple times , just been a while.

Of course I'm just trying to make sure it is in muscle and not sitting on fat, or near a nerve etc.

Does anybody take mag and/or B shots at same time , close to other site??

Really probably fine, I just tend to worry about doing everything right and as much as we can.



CAUSE I'M SO TIRED/SICK OF THESE FOUR WALLS AND MY DAY'S STARTING AT 2PM OR LATER. [shake]

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Any thought's
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nonna - i am really tired but wanted to reply.
do you know what muscle you are using as injection site? dorsal or ventral glut?

i use the ventral glut. i just re-started bicillin. gave myself an injection this evening in the ventral glut. did not feel a thing. no lump. no blood. i am tiny and use a 22ga 1" needle. no ice or heat used.

most of the time i don't feel much of anything.

there are times when i insert the needle and realize i have hit a bad spot. if the insertion is painful i withdraw - change needles and try again.

more times than not all goes great with the first try.

before injecting i feel around for the bones - and mark them with band-aids. my terminology is bad but to me i feel for the top of the "leg bone" and then the bottom of the "hip bone." (?)

then between those bones is the muscle area.
sorry i am not describing this well.

others please correct me if my explanation is incorrect. for the ventroglut - find the area by standing - and let your arms hang down naturally. place your hands then on your legs.
then slide your hands up. you can feel the general area that way - when your "hands are on your hips". (not like hands on hips near back pockets on jeans).

thanks to sammy i learned of the ventroglut site. but her way of describing the area is much more sophisticated than mine.

oh, i was also confused - and when searching online - i found some good photos/explanations - of all places - on a site where body builders discuss their injections and sites.

hope this helps a little - but of course - if you have any doubts - get "hands on" instruction by a nurse or at your doctors office.

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Nonna, going back to the injection link, scroll down to page 49, figure 5b. Looking at the diagram of the gluteus muscle, you give the injection above the red dot area, anywhere to the right of the dots where the muscle is.

Hold the syringe upright at a 90 degree angle and you will hit muscle, not fat.

I would give the Magnesium and B12 in a different area. Give that muscle that just got the Bicillin a break. B12 can go in the deltoid area of the arm or the front of the thigh. This link also shows that area, figure 5a for the deltoid. The magnesium I would give in the opposite side of the butt.

Here is a youtube video on injection sites that might help: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRYHt0RBLPs

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Thank you. Anybody lay down for them?

tonight was better, put mag in leg w/ 1 1/2" needle.
That was wrong ,either I need to add B, so it doesn't sting so much. OR..
Maybe realize my legs aren't as fat as I thought and use 1" needle.

Sometimes I'm crapping so much that mag. will help the quickest. Usually oral, still don't think I'm absorbing well.

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Magnesium needs to go in the butt not the thigh. B12 can go in the thigh. And yes, use a shorter needle when using the thigh and deltoid.

I use 1/2ml of lidocaine with the magnesium to prevent the sting and pain. You need a prescription for it.

I do all gluteus injections lying down. I just use the same technique in finding the right area for the injection.

Also, turn your toes in, it will help the muscle to relax.

Good luck!
Karen

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thigh would be 1 inch then?
Or last one went better,,,,left med on counter longer. did it slower..

Still wish butt was marked with perm. ink

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