I was just wondering, I heard it's bad to get root canals. What other options are there?
I been having a lot of pain, and I asked a dentist (who is a family friend), and she said it's going to be a root canal.
I also have a lot of silver feelings, should I take them out and put white fillings instead
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Look up Weston Price in regards to root canals. I was told I needed 2 but I had the teeth removed instead. My dentist thought I was nuts but I didn't want dead teeth & pathogens collecting in my gums.
Luckily, the teeth weren't too visible. It's not fun getting them out but I'm OK with it. No one likes to lose a tooth. It depends on the placement in the mouth.
I'm working on getting my 2 remaining mercury amalgams replaced. I have to wait until the removed teeth are healed. The fillings are no good but having them replaced doesn't always cure everyone from all their health issues. I don't want any mercury in my head anymore. It can't be all that healthy.
There are photos of teeth out-gassing mercury on You Tube. That stuff stays in the body... It really should be in a toxic waste dump not in someone's head.
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I don't want my tooth removed... It's my molar tooth!
Now I have no clue what to do.
Are white fillings safer?
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This issue has been long debated on this forum.. I think the general consensus is to have them removed but they do serve a purpose and weaken the jawline after removal. So esthetically you may notice droopy jowls with time.
I had all my mercury removed and detoxed as well as had several teeth removed and didnt feel any different afterwards. Only suffered with a 3 hour painful extraction followed by infecton. I should say in retrospect if i had to do it again I would have done everything possible to save.that tooth.
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Everyone is different. In my case, I got rid of lyme, babesiosis and bartonella with all of my root canals and mercury fillings still in my mouth.
One day I asked my lyme doc if I was going to have to have them out and he said, "Evidently not." I was well on my way to being rid of these diseases when I asked.
So, that's how it was for me.
If you have a tooth pulled and don't replace it with anything, the tooth opposite it will grow longer because there is nothing for it to chew against. Eventually, this will cause problems as it gets longer and longer and that tooth also will have to be removed. It happened to my husband. (Takes years to happen.)
The options if you have the tooth removed are: get an implant (thousands of dollars; made of titanium; so what is the advantage?), or have a bridge made. For the bridge, they "whittle" down the teeth on either side of the space and then make "crowns" for the teeth on either side with a fake tooth in the middle to fill up the empty space. So, you ruin 2 good teeth to have something for the fake tooth to attach to. Not only that, but the bridge can be painful or at least uncomfortable. They often attach with "wires" to the good teeth. If you can get a bridge without wires (called a permanent bridge, I believe), that would likely be better. Ask your dentist to be sure.
If it were me, I would get the root canal. That is based on my experience. If it turns bad on you some day, then you are forced to have the tooth removed. But, if it causes you no problem, you have solved your problem.
Right before I was diagnosed with lyme disease, the lyme caused me such unbearable dental pain that my dentist did 2 root canals trying to relieve me of the pain. Of course, they didn't work. But, these root canals never caused me a bit of problem. I still have them to this day. I have been free of lyme for 8 years now. No problems.
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You are extremely fortunate to have the best specialist in laser dentistry, Dr. Richard Hansen, right there in so. California at the Laser Dental Wellness Center in Fullerton.
People come not only from the U.S.A. but also from all around the world to have dental treatment from Dr. Hansen.
I am in no way connected to this place or dentist, just looking for help for myself and others and wishing he were here where I live!
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I was well on my way to getting root canals due to clenching for 10 years. Then I discovered parasite treatment. No more clenching, except for a little bit before the full moons.
I thank god for Gael (glm1111) every single day. She consistently posts about parasites. I started improving as soon as I started working on them.
I really like TF's response above. We are all different. You have to follow your gut.
As far as amalgam removal, yes the composites are better than the mercury, IMO. Mercury is deadly. Dr. H said that mercury is responsible for over 800 auto immune disorders. That's good enough for me.
I had a mouth full of amalgams. I still managed to improve a little with them, but eventually I realized they needed to come out.
I am sooooooooo glad that I finally got a clue and started getting rid of them (more to do). I have to thank Gigi for that. Her babushka principle is spot on. She also recently posted a video on mercury. It made me sick to my stomach. If you do a search, you'll find it.
Controversy also rises over which dentist to go to (biological or regular). There are huge differences between the two. I just had some amalgams replaced a few days ago by my biological dentist. I felt better immediately afterwards. It was, by far, way easier on my body than when I did just one with a regular dentist.
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I am in the process of having all my amalgams removed and also a root canal.
I have already had 2 amalgams removed.
They were done by a biological dentist.
I felt pretty bad after but am feeling a bit better now.
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TF, what kind of dental pain did you have before your lyme diagnosis?
I get nerve pain in my teeth. Sometimes I end up wondering if I damaged a tooth and I run to the dentist. Have to remind myself its probably from lyme or bartonella. Odd though because I am almost symptom free.
Its really frustrating. Do you remember if anything specific helped your dental issues?
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unsure, I had pain in my jaw, at the base of the teeth. It seemed like it was in the area of 2 or 3 teeth. But, you couldn't pinpoint it to a single tooth, no matter what the dentist tried. So, that's why the dentist did a root canal on the tooth he thought needed it. When that didn't work, he did the tooth next to it also.
The pain evolved to feeling like liquid fire was flowing down my jaw. So, looking back, I would say it was definitely nerve pain at the root level of the teeth. (I have heard others say that their nerve pain felt like fire--flowing down the legs, etc.) It was just on one side of my mouth. I lived on Lortab just to endure each day. I was in agony for months. I told the dentist to cut my head off!
Once I was diagnosed with lyme, I told my dentist that this was the cause of that horrendous pain. He was very interested and took articles I had about all the dental issues lyme can cause.
He was so upset when 2 root canals failed to give me any relief! He threw up his hands and yelled, "That's it! No more root canals!" And, he sent me to a dental surgeon to try to figure out what was the matter. The dentist said that once a root canal was done on a tooth, you could no longer feel pain in that tooth. That it was impossible. So, to me, that shows you that the pain is in the nerve that runs down the jaw, not a tooth problem at all..
When the surgeon decided it was inflammation, he was actually right! But, what caused it was unknown. It was caused by lyme disease! I told him that cold and wet days caused the most pain and he said that that is how it would be with inflammation. So, see if that is how it is for you also.
He had me take the maximum amount of Advil every day. It really didn't help that I could tell. Not in the least. But, I obeyed. I told him I would obey until the Advil gave me reflux, which it did after about a month. So, then I had to treat reflux. The surgeon thought that the max of Advil each day would take care of my pain! I informed him that it did nothing for my pain. I had to take Lortab for the pain plus the Advil as an anti-inflammatory medication.
Looking back, I found during my lyme experience that Ultram helped my various pains more than any other narcotic pain killer. It seems to work the best for nerve pain.
So, to summarize, my dental pain went away when summer came. Nothing got rid of it or helped it at all. Then, I got diagnosed with lyme and started treating it and I never got anymore dental pain. So, good lyme treatment permanently took care of the problem.
I did get other facial pain after being on lousy lyme treatment for 2 years. I got trigeminal neuralgia, which is totally unbearable.
I also had a mild bilateral bells palsy (called "facial drooping") for 3 years prior to my lyme diagnosis. That spontaneously resolved itself one day prior to diagnosis.
I also had sound sensitivity, stiff and sore neck, lots of headaches for months, etc. So, all of the nerves in my head were affected at one time or another. I even had gaps in my visual field one day, so that covers the optic nerve. (Very scary.)
This is all par for the course for lyme disease. I would not have a dentist do any exploring or see dental specialists if I knew what I know now. If they can't see anything by looking or by x-ray, it is likely lyme disease causing the problem.
Was the dental pain one of your first symptoms? If so, it will likely be the last to leave you. That's how it is. First to come is the last to go. I guess because that is where the lyme has been entrenched the longest.
Don't stop treating until you are totally symptom-free. And, discuss the dental pain with your lyme doctor for additional insight. If the pain is not in a specific tooth, I'd guess it is this horrendous disease.
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I am in the process of having all my amalgams removed and also a root canal.
I have already had 2 amalgams removed.
They were done by a biological dentist.
I felt pretty bad after but am feeling a bit better now.
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I used the SOTA Magnetic Pulser on a painful tooth, and it got better!
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Hang in there Maya. It's no fun, but at least you're getting rid of the mercury, which is a good thing.
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The thing is - they take wisdom teeth out all the time. It's almost like a right if passage when one gets to be about 19 or 20... I know of a few people who had big problems from having root canals go bad recently.
I just wonder why it seems good to keep something that is dead in your head. Eventually, all kinds of bacteria will grow there. A root canal is a dead tooth in your head.
Yes, there is alot of controvercy about it. I thought about it alot before I had my 2 teeth removed. I don't know what will happen over time with the teeth out but I didn't want any extra bacteria growing in my jaw.
They are finding all kinds of links between dental bacteria & heart disease, arthritis, cancer, etc.
During a root canal, there is no way to sterilize your tooth; after the root canal, dangerous bacteria hide out in the tooth and are unreachable with antibiotics
Root-canaled and filled teeth harbor bacteria that morph into very toxic forms, which then can migrate to other tissues in your body and cause serious medical conditions, including diseases of your heart, kidneys, bones, and brain
There is no other medical practice that permits leaving a dead body part inside your body, because it triggers your immune system to attack
If you have a diseased tooth, or if you�ve already had a root canal, I highly recommend consulting a biological dentist about have it extracted
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TF, thanks for sharing your dental issues. You went through so much! It must have been horrible.
I can relate to the burning nerve pain. Used to get in in my hand.
I didn't get tooth pain until I started treating Bartonella again after a long break about a year and a half ago. I actually had started taking Byron White A-Bart.
It's really annoying because as you said, you never quite know what is what.
I am glad you are better and thanks for all the information you provide on here daily!
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I just want to add, in my case - I wasn't having dental pain from Lyme or other pathogens. I had a tooth that was mistakenly drilled too close to the nerve when I was getting a filling. The other tooth I had was dead. I was given the choice for a root canal or other. I studied the options & decided that removing the teeth was best decision for me.
I don't take it lightly to remove teeth. You have to study your particular situation & make a decision as to what is best for you. I thought about my particular case for a long time before making a decision.
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TF...can you share any articles you have regarding dental pain and lyme....for me, this eas the first symptom. However, i have also had infection with it. But very atypical pain.
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Check out the Weston a price foundation website. It has slot of good info. One of the things he advocates is how vitamin d3 is very important for dental health. With Lyme it robs our bodies of this vitamin so you must supplement. He also advocates drinking raw milk as it contains d3. It can remineralize teeth and literally reverse tooth decay. I had a stain on my canine, looks like flouride stain even tho I gave up tap water, and after about a month of drinking one gallon of raw milk a week the stain has shrunk. It's amazing stuff but it has to be raw.
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