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http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Fluke+Infections

Even though I have done the traditional Biltricide, etc. protocol many years ago when I still had Lyme, I was tested by Dr. K. recently and due to "hard as a rock liver" which he simply felt with his hand, he decided that I had liver flukes.

He suggested I do MMS, since it goes after literally everything that should not be in the body, I have been doing MMS for about six weeks.

I have gotten out many many liver flukes. Plus little rocks and all sorts of things that should not be in the colon, liver/gallbladder, feet and legs. Some "debris" that I cannot identify and am not really trying to identify because I am sure nobody really will identify these. Mutations are not in test kits and probably never will be.

We know that all these parasites are hellbent on survival using every trick in the book to hide.
I have never seen a anything that looks like a worm, and possibly only the casing of some, but very little.

Much leaves with biofilm and what is hanging on to it is also not identifiable.

Realize that parasites will move to the end of the world to hide; in our body, that means in the feet and toes and legs, fingers and weak joints.

If you are still hanging on to the thought that you have Lyme and Co., give up. What most of us have after years of treatment is not Lyme, but rather some mutation of survivors that we simply cannot identify.

That is why I like MMS. There is no guessing as to which pill to take and loading up my
system with more garbage to hide. We are so full of fillers that come with all the pills, none of which make things easier.

I attended a Dr. K. 3-day seminar over the weekend, and MMS is coming more and more to the forefront. He is taking it himself.

I like MMS because it also seems to "neutralize" toxic metals and chemicals, of which all of us have plenty even if you don't know it.

I have also unloaded "rivers" of fungi with colonics which all lose their home when the parasite nests are broken up and metals depart.

I do the MMS Baby Bottle protocol which is so easy and can be done even by the busiest people as long as the take an ounce of the baby bottle every hours for eight hours. I take the bottle with me when I am on the road. I start early in the day to be done by 4-5- PM. The results usually show up the next morning in the toilet.

Read up on my earlier posts if the simplicity of MMS and low cost appeals to you.

Take care.

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I would like to start parasite cleansing, but not sure where to start. Not sure what MMS is.

I'll be killing Candida in the meantime and need to make sure my bowels are moving (with enemas, etc.)

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Is there a good website that can break it down for me? How to kill parasites? I'm inclined to use anti.parasitic herbs.
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Gigi, can you tell me more about MMS? Where to buy it, and what to buy, and is it safe?

Thanks....

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girl, I found this online, lots of info....

http://whatismms.com/

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Thanks, Steve! Can you tell if it contains Citric Acid, or is that a different product?
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Darn, it does. I've got to avoid that with my Candida protocol.
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I'm glad you found that, I didn't know myself if it was a different product.

It sounds like you need both to make it work. That's to bad you can't try it.

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I'm interested in trying this but I'm a little concerned about the co2 gas (Steve's link). I wonder if that would make babs worse?

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I know! I was almost convinced. What is up with this? The site states it even seems to feed a certain fungus.

http://whatismms.com/documents/Fungus%20Control.pdf

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Gigi... what do you mean "the results show up in the toilet the next morning?" How do you know it's not your body trying to get rid of the MMS?

I am intrigued by the product and am reading more, -and the words "bleach" and "death" seem to keep popping up.

Please be careful.

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I studied MMS thoroughly before I used it and I got the latest Jim Humble book and studied his, the inventor's website: www.JimHumble.biz

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLEEFLCefnM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXIw_kYxuhA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C79Gzu-Pj-Y

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girl, My finds in the toilet: I am finding a lot of biofilm. I am finding casings of dead parasites. I am finding many liver flukes that has brought great relief to me and my liver.

I am also emptying my sinuses with an almost constant flow of biofilm. I am finding my ears to open up and the damage I had suffered with tinnitus during Lyme is thereby diminishing.

I am also taking Diamotateous Earth which I consider an excellent binder and have posted many times about it.

Best of all: I am constantly getting rid of more toxic metals and chemicals.

You may pull up some of my more recent posts by search here.

Be aware that the pharmaceutical industry is fighting MMS, a non patentable natural substance, with all the weapons they have. Many thousands of people all over the world are using MMS.

Take care.

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http://www.andreaskalcker.com/index.php/en/health/parasite

The image you will see in this documentation is identical to what I found the first two days I
used MMS per instructions of Dr. K. A lot more followed in form of matter that would eventually turn into gallbladder stones, etc. etc.

I am so glad I got rid of that load that was probably many years old going back to intensive Lyme treatment and prior to that due to much dental work and dental infections that were dealt with a long time ago.

I will continue doing MMS until nothing strange or biofilm shows up any longer.

It is worth studying MMS.

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Jum Humble, the man who "invented" MMS, has several books available and I was able to read much of his latest book a couple weeks ago at Amazon.com, by using the "search in this book" feature.


Well now, this is surprising.
I went to Amazon.com and typed in chlorine dioxide, which is the antiseptic that Jim Humble uses.
Second thing that came up was CloSYS Antiseptic Oral Rinse, which uses chlorine dioxide to kill germs in the mouth.

Wow, if you have gum disease or even bad breath, you owe it to yourself to read the reviews on this product.

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Carol, Did you try this product (MMS)? I'M still doing some research, but it also scares me like others!!!

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http://www.parasitesinhumans.org/fasciola-hepatica-liver-fluke.html

This is exactly what liver flukes look like.

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Gigi, thank you for the links. I'm still intrigued so I will certainly investigate this. I am working on healing my gut, so that is one concern I have... the effect on the gut.

I did read briefly on his website how easily he debunked the bleach accusations - and although I'm not a chemist, it sounded convincing.

Another thing I heard through the grapevine is that you do not have to use Citric Acid (good news for Candida sufferers). You can use an HCL activator.

One question I do have though is what does bio film look like?

Also, do you have any other recommendations for a parasite overhaul, in case we didn't want to take MMS for 18 months? Isn't there another option out there?

Thanks again. And I will take time to check out all your links.

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http://mmsautism.org/forum/diet/112-parasite-food-chart-interesting.html#post459

Parasite food chart!

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Girl, I am using the HCL activator. I will use the citric acid to activate MMS in foot bath, etc.

Biofilm look s like uncooked eggwhite. Sometimes it has little dots of this and that in it. It definitely is the cover/refuge for the reproduction of these creatures.

I once had nothing but totally emerald green uncooked egg white in the toilet, at least two eggs' worth of it. No pain, no nothing; it just sort of slid out after BM. The next day, however, I passed a ton of small blackish rocks that looked like they could mature into gallstones if left on their own long enough.
The MMS definitely took it out and ended the situatiion before it could become miserable.

Nobody says you take MMS for 18 months. I
don't intend to. Be aware of any symptoms. Once my feet don't change size any longer and where I can step down without feeling any soreness; or I do not test energetically for MMS anymore, I will stop.

At this moment, when testing energetically with Direct Resonance Testing as done in ART, I test for parasites in my feet and lower leg and I test for toxic metals still around my neck and jaw area. I used to have a lot of metals in my mouth plus metal implant. What is testing now is the remains of that that got stuck in the tissue, etc.

I have no other solution to this, because I think Salt & C is way too cumbersome and I would take it together with MMS, but Vit C negates the effects of MMS. The only thing I take if it tests energetically is the pharma protocol. As long as it does not test indicating I would benefit, I am not taking it.

MMS is so easy to do and tolerated well as long as we respect the number of drops. I started with l/8 drop --- and will not go any higher than three drops. It will take a while to reach 3 drops without causing to feel sick. This is where many people go wrong and do not appreciate MMS. It is very effective and a tiny bit goes a long way!

Hope this helps.

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Do you think MMS is something someone can do without having an ART practitioner - or would that be foolish?
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Being able to test myself helps me to assure myself that I am going in the right direction. That is the only way I got out of Lyme. Of course this is a very personal decision. I would not want to do it without being able to test myself every day. You don't necessarily need a Dr. K. type to do this, but there are many others around across the country to consult or learn from. I listened for years and then decided to learn it myself. I really would not know what to do if I didn't know how to test myself for things I put into my body.

With some effort, I am sure you could find someone just as I did. A pendulum and/or tensor like I use and a few parasite frequency vials, etc. will get you started.

You have to look for them, because most of these people do not advertise.

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Thanks, Gigi. I really appreciate you taking the time to give your input.
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Several years ago I had an episode when I found small multi-lobed leaf looking things in the toilet.

Later I read about liver flukes and saw this picture:
http://s4.hubimg.com/u/226859_f260.jpg

The circled portion is the testes of the fluke, and looks like what I saw, about the size of a dime.
Ugh.

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Gigi,

thank you for posting your experience.

Can I take one drop of MMS with 5 drops of lemon juice (wait 40 seconds)and mix it with 8 oz. of organic apple juice?
Drink it over 8 hours (every hour).

Are there internet groups for MMS?

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karenl, I would not use apple juice. It has so much sugar in it and probably also Vit C even if it was not added.

Here is one Forum: http://g2cforum.org/

They have recently switched to HCL for activating the MMS because it is easier and other reasons I do not know.

I do not know enough about lemon juice and no one I know uses it. The MMS and Citric Acid, and now MMS and HCL is available as a pair at Amazon.

I am sure Curezone also has MMS people posting.

You can call Roi at www.reikiranch.com in Eastern Washington to ask questions. I posted the info some weeks ago. Both husband and wife have had Lyme and treated with MMS successfully. I talked with him when I ordered my Humble book. I would not ever want to get into a subject without at least learning the basics. It is foolish. and shortsighted. There are recipes for MMS that I use - all in the book. And of course lots of valuable information.

I do not want to give advice on MMS. I am as new to it as everybody else and do not want to mislead people pretending expertise. It is not good.

I hope you will explore it - I love what I am doing and it is accomplishing what I need.

Best to you, karenl.

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Gigi- I was wondering why it took so long to find your liver flukes? you seem to visit the doctor regularly?
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Kristen J. I have no idea when I caught liver flukes. Could have been a few weeks ago because I had no symptoms whatsoever, unless a swollen ankle and tender foot is caused by this??? Both are improving with MMS now. I converse with Dr. K. often privately, but do not see him often as a patient.

I was treated with Biltrizide addressing possible liver flukes and the other pharmas some 12 years ago, but not since. Since I ART tested for MMS, he suspected parasites, and that is what showed up a few days into MMS.

I do take Diatomaceous Earth mainly for binding toxic metals and that also captures any possible larvae which stops some of the cycle of reproduction of parasites. I have never seen an actual worm, except a couple of casings.

I saw a lot of biofilm when I started MMS. Most of the critters are hiding in the biofilm lining our venous system.

One foot in a sandbox or touching a dog can equal parasites.

Take care hoping you have none!

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Gigi- diatomaceous earth does not bind toxic metals. It is used against parasites as it slices mechanically through their exoskeleton.
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Hmm, if you kill parasites by destroying their skeleton, you set free the toxic metals that are being held in the coats of parasites. If you see the load departing with the stool when using DE, the metals are moving along with the load. DE and MMS are both lowering my toxic metal load, which is one of my main problems that actually surfaced when I started to be exposed to Smart Meter and excessive EMF.

Physical conditions and energetic testing both prove that this is the case. I thought I was ready for the nuthouse until I started treatment with the things I have been discussing here at length over months --- I was a walking antenna feeling as if I had my fingers stuck in the electric outlet.

If you are alert enough, taking some other substances proving positive toward eliminating toxic metals is important. I never put all my eggs in one basket. But DE is a most positive medium to reduce toxins along with parasites.

I am fine now and am no longer feeling the electric sensations going through every limb of my body. If you have ever been afflicted with toxic metal symptoms, you know immediately when things improve.

By the way, capturing the parasite larvae due to DE is much more important than other benefits of DE. If you do not capture the larvae, the merry-go-round of parasites would go on for years and years. 200,000 eggs deposited by some parasites is a lot more than one. I try to keep that in mind because I don't want to deal with excessive parasites for the rest of my life.

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Gigi, i just had AD test me for MMS and it is supposed to be very healing for me. I will try the bathtub rout first and if it helps i will graduate to oral.
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Gigi,

When you say you use the baby bottle protocol are you talking about a reall baby bottle (I assume glass, but has rubber tip)? Just wondering what kind of small glass bottle you use to take with you?

Thanks. Hiker53

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Kristen J., the trick with MMS is to know how far to go with it. The number of drops taken is very important. Two drops too much is too much, and more is never, never better.

Stopping a day or two and stepping back taking less is wise. Herxheimers caused by too much release of toxin is a stress for the body and I feel is of no benefit.

I am sure you have seen the instructions for bath
in the Humble book. I am also using the eye drop
recipe.

Best to you, Kristen J.

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Hiker53, please search for Kerri Rivera's baby bottle protocol that she uses for the autistic children worldwide. Do your own research. If I leave out one word in any possible answers to your question, I am the one that gets to take the insults from you if things do not turn out right for you.

I am simply tired of that. And have posted numerous informative links just recently to get at all this info.

I do not ever mind sharing what I have learned, but it is important that you do your own research that is so readily available on the internet.

Take care.

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Gigi,

I was not asking for myself, but for a friend who is interested in MMS. I hae used MMS before and was gong to give her mine as she is low on funds. I just wanted to know if the baby bottle is used because it has an extra seal or beacuse it is easy to measure with or if any glass bottle would work. WHen I used MMS before I did not use the baby bottle method (perhaps I should have, but at this point in time I don't test well for MMS).

I have done a lot of research and everything I read shows a baby bottle and if that is definitely needed I will buy her one.

There is a lot on the internet, of course, and much is easy to find, but I don't always trust what I find on internet sites.

I have not intended to insult you. If I have I apologize. We both have strong opinions and my direct manner might have offended you. Again, I apologize!

I do thank you for steering me towards infrared light/photons treatment. I know you are not in favor of it anymore, but it was big step in helping me.

God Bless.

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to Hiker53,

Misstatement: I am very much in favor of light and photon treatments, but not the way the are applied in Germany by that certain doctor.

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Gigi,

Thank you for correcting me on your view of light and photon treatment. I honestly did not realize you were in favor of it.

I do not intend to be intentionally rude to you. I would like us all to get along on this site. I think you have a lot of good info to offer.

I may not always agree with everyone, but I will not very hard not to come across as rude.

Hiker53

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"God is light. In Him there is no
darkness." 1John 1:5

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