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BobG
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See subject- any thoughts experiences appreciated.

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My LLMD doesn't even look at Bart streaks after the diagnosis appt.

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Mine does as this is still a clinical diagnosis a lot of the time and the streaks showing up confirm this.

This happened to both my husband and myself after starting treatment for Bart but it was months into the treatment before the streaks showed up.

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My daughter has them at 19. The more we treat Bart the more they show up. She has them from her calves to her rib cage. Sometimes they are silvery and sometimes bright red. She is On month 9 of IV after 2 years of Orals. I don't know what it means but if she had stopped treatment for Bart when they were silver she would have stopped too early. Besides the streaks she now has for the first time severe shin splints and foot pain.
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Bartonella may require long-term treatment. But, most certainly, never stop treatment if symptoms are still evident.

But, just because the streaks (or other symptoms) may disappear at one point, that may not mean treatment is complete. This is every much a "stealth" infection as any of the tick-borne infections.

Be sure to see an ILADS LLMD, one of the best who is also very well educated in this matter and will offer various combinations, rotations, etc. in an individually treatment approach - and a LLMD who would know how to determine the phases of successful treatment.

Bartonella can absolutely become chronic (and it can also be passed from mother to baby from any time, conception to birth, to breast feeding (and possibly from father during conception).

So, it's important that anyone who ever want to become a parent gets this taken care of as completely as possible.
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faithful777

The streaks were there before we started treatment, but they became red/pink after starting (all mid back). Since starting treatment new ones have also showed up higher on the back and more to the side, and smaller. We have also seen foci develop in some of them. So somewhat similar experiences.

I figured it was a form of "herx" reaction, thus my questions about clinical/treatment relevance.

It's very helpful to hear other's experience.

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Keebler

That makes sense to me.

Thanks!

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It's very common for "new" streaks to come to the surface during treatment. It's actually a good sign that the medicine is having an effect.

But, if too painful, she may need to back down on treatment dose and should ask her LLMD if that would be okay. Liver support and Nettle can also help.

The streaks can be torture so, if it's possible to "control" them that would be nice.

If they itch, be sure to she avoids any kind of steroid creams. Steroids, even topical creams, can make tick-borne infections much worse. No steroids. Just want to be sure that detail is in your tool chest.


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