Topic: extreme dental pain after extraction, help!
Ellen101
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I went in yesterday to have a tooth extracted. Long story short it did not go as planned. It took them over 2 hers to get the tooth out as the roots wee all twisted and the tooth shattered. I lost count of how many injections of Novocaine they gave me and after awhile the said no more would make a difference.
He sent me home with a bunch of stitches and said to expect slot of pain and swelling. He gave me lortab and tramadol as well as some homeopathic stuff, core olive leaf digestive enzymes , and injurotox. Unfortunately I also need to be on a high dose of amoxicillin as he said the likelihood of infection was high.
After being off antibiotics for several months I'm not sure what to expect. I was not sure about the core olive leaf. Is that the same as olive leaf extract?
He said to take the the lortab as long as I was not driving as it will really knock me out...well it didn't. It helped the pain for habit 2 hers and that was it. I never slept last night. As far as the tramadole'he said I could take that along with ibuprofen.
All I know is the pain is probably the worst I've ever had.
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Wow. Your stomach may take quite a hit from all of that! Whew! Make sure you are taking mega doses of high quality probiotics and watching your diet.
I hope the pain subsides SOON!!!! Do you know someone who can get you some Clove oil (good quality, not bought at a store)? That can be applied directly to the tissue to numb it.
Keep us posted on how you're doing!!
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Catgirl
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You poor thing! Up your vitamin D (you'll need more), and get some oil of oregano (it destroys oral pathogens). You can rub the oil where the tooth was (several times daily) or just saturate a piece of cotton and wedge it between the cheek and gum (as needed).
Proteolytic enzymes help to clean up the bad stuff, and reduce inflammation (a big help for me recently with a crown). Also, vitamin C (more than you're currently taking), and some anti inflammatory herbs might help too (ginger, curcurmin or tumeric).
I'm not pushing these enzymes, I just found the link below which explains how they work. Feel better soon!
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AuntyLynn
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Plain flavored ICE CREAM!!! and LOTS of it!
MY personal choice - HAAGEN DAZ ... a PLAIN variety ... NO chips or nuts OR fruit seeds.
I USE COFFEE (mmm mmm!) or VANILLA. IF you have SWELLING You WILL HAVE PAIN! ICE that mutha down!
A lemon or other seedless fruit sherbet would be just as good. Or a natural fruit ice Pop (I like the mango ones from Whole Foods)
And if you need MORE - try some Advil.
It's hard to eat anything when your mouth hurts ... so yogurt and ice cream have become my "go to" foods post-extraction.
Hope you will feel better soon, Ellen!
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Tammy N.
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I had a horrible episode after a tooth was pulled. I think it has a lot to do with all of the toxins that were trapped in the area from previous mercury vapors and the bacteria that is so prevalent in the mouth....all of these things seem to be more problematic for those of us with Lyme and cos. (Gigi has posted about this in the past.)
I would try some Wobenzym and Traumeel for inflammation. Also lots of fish oil.
And binders for sure -- chlorella, microsilica, charcoal, or zeolite, etc.
Also, you can get a green light pen from Amazon and hold it on several points from inside the mouth and also from the outside. 3 minutes on each point. Dr. K told me about this. He said it does not need to be a very expensive, fancy green light. The cheap ones work fine.
Once you've healed enough, try oil pulling also. I think this is an amazing therapy.
I know how awful this is. I hope you feel better soon.
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AuntyLynn
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I've done oil pulling - had high hopes for it - and was not especially impressed. But that's just my experience.
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Ellen101
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Thanks everyone. I am finding more relief with the tramadol'and motrin than with the lortab. I would love some ice cream but with my allergy to'cow'milk I don't have any other kinds right now. I have been having soups.
Is anyone familiar with the homeopathic remedies they gave me?the digestive enzymes were needed anyway so I'm not concerned about taking those, but the core olive leaf has me concerned.
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Razzle
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Do not put oregano or clove oil on a raw wound! This will dramatically increase the pain! I made this mistake myself! Do not do it!
Myrrh oil is safe on a fresh wound, it will not burn or cause problems, and will help with healing. Myrrh is also antimicrobial.
Homeopathy:
Arnica - good for pain and shock.
Hypericum - good for nerve pain, and helps prevent lockjaw (tetanus).
Phosphorus - good for bleeding after surgery, good for helping to heal after tooth extraction. May help with the pain some, also.
The nice thing about homeopathy is you can take it as often as needed. And these 3 remedies do not interact with prescription meds. In fact, phosphorus may reduce nausea caused by anesthesia or sedatives.
The above homeopathy is what I used when I had my Wisdom teeth out, and also after getting one tooth pulled last month.
I don't know anything about the specific herbal or enzyme products mentioned.
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AuntyLynn
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Bummer on the cow's milk allergy!
Actually, the Ice Cream is to cut the swelling with COLD! Try Ice chips? Or frozen soy desserts? I'm sure the dentist would have given you an ice pack to go home with ... but putting the cold right in your mouth works so much better.
Since soup is hot ... and may actually be adding to your discomfort! Sure hope not.
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Ellen101
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The dentist actually wants me to use warm compresses rather than ice to bring good blood flow to the area. I went ahead and had the nice cream and the soups are not gluten free. At this point I need to do what feels good and worry about allergies later.
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Ellen101
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I'm well aware of that but sometimes you have to do what feels good....
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AuntyLynn
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OK, so warm compresses are new to me. But my extractions weren't nearly as complicated as this one.
hmmm Frozen yogurt? Actually,ice chips are probably best - if the cold seemed to help.
BTW, I am obligated to swallow 2,000 mg of Amoxicillan before I even walk into my dentist's door. (They used to give me twice that, until the medical community realized the scope of the yeast infections they were causing.) Now I take BIO-K (50 mil acidophilus per 3 0z. cup) before and after ... and the yeasties never get a grip.
Hang in there Ellen. A couple of days, the healing will have been well on its way. The mouth heals really fast.
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Catgirl
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Razzle, I forgot about the wound being raw (ouch)--really good catch!
I really like Tammy's green light suggestion too!
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Carol in PA
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Serrapeptase, a systemic enzyme, works well to reduce swelling after oral surgery. Take it on an empty stomach and wait at least 30 minutes before eating.
The tablets have a coating to prevent the stomach acid from dissolving them. Drink some water or iced tea while you're waiting, and the tablets will pass into the intestines, where they dissolve. About 25% of the enzymes get absorbed.
Systemic enzymes reduce inflammation. The bottle usually says to start with three tablets, but I found I got good results once I went up to ten or twelve tablets daily, in one dose. I'm using Wobenzym, a blend of enzymes, and it reduces body and joint pain, and has done wonders for the stupid continuous headaches.
If you have a SOTA Magnetic Pulser or Lightworks, now is the time to use them on your jaw area. They increase the nutrients the cells need to heal.
With the LightWorks, wounds heal three to five times as quickly. The Magnetic Pulser stopped my tooth pain in minutes and also stopped esophageal spasms. When my back muscles were in spasm, I could feel them loosen up in minutes.
If you take Tramadol, adding Tylenol (acetominophen) will potentiate it, or help it work better.
Tylenol also helps narcotics work better, and most of the prescription narcotics have Tylenol added.
DLPA is also supposed to help narcotics work better. This is an amino acid, and the reviews at iHerb are interesting.
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Be careful Tramadol is addictive.Google search Tramadol addiction,withdrawals.
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Ellen101
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quote:Originally posted by Healing in Santa Cruz: Be careful Tramadol is addictive.Google search Tramadol addiction,withdrawals.
Thanks for the warning. This is an old thread from March. Fortunately I do not still need pain meds Posts: 1748 | From United States | Registered: Dec 2011
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The trouble with tramadol is that it doesn't work!
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I'm supposed to have extractions soon I hope I do ok ! How long til your severe pain subsided ? Do you have Infared dome or device ? I was told to use it after .
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Ellen101
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I had severe pain due to a difficult extraction as well as a dry socket. The extraction was complicated due to the fact that unfortunately the dentist was not as experienced as he should have been. With the right oral surgeon you will be fine. No I did not have an infrared dome or device. I have had extractions done before with no issues. Usually fine by the next day. This was a poor choice on my part for surgeons.
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