Topic: Best babesia duncani treatment without antibiotics
RZR
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I took abx combos for 3-1/2 years before switching to herbals and rife. Babesia duncani was treated with high doses of Mepron followed by malarone for nearly 2 years. Symptoms of sweats would always come back...even while on treatment. LLMD said bart and parasites can also cause sweats, so we moved on.
Been off abx for 7 months and using the full Cowden protocol plus rife. I still have symptoms of sweats, swollen fingers, sore feet, and fatigue. I have herxed like crazy on the Cowden protocol.
I really don't want to go back on abx. What is the best alternative treatment for babesia duncani?
I really don't want to go back
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desertwind
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I've been there too. I am on a protocol of malarone, liposomal ART, and Alinia. Also Byron White A-BABS. Can't stomach abx.'d anymore
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RZR
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quote:Originally posted by desertwind: I've been there too. I am on a protocol of malarone, liposomal ART, and Alinia. Also Byron White A-BABS. Can't stomach abx.'d anymore
Will you please PM me your protocol? Does malarone cause yeast? Will it become resistant without abx added? Where did you get lipo ART?
Good luck to you and thanks!
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RZR
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BoxerMom....not sure if I can up doses of Cowden. I am on the full protocol at recommended doses.
I took Byron White A-Babs in the past, but it is so expensive, I couldn't afford to keep taking it. I know if you are a nurse or health care provider, the cost is much less, but I don't know anyone that could order it for me.
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BoxerMom
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RZR - totally agree on the out-of-reach price. I was lucky enough to be gifted a couple of partially used bottles.
Your money will stretch further with the other options.
CherylSue
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Cowden's protocols just cause a lot of herxes with few benefits in my experience.
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BoxerMom
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CherylSue - that is an interesting observation. It has rung true in my experience as well, though I have never committed to the entire protocol.
desertwind
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Sending you a PM..,,,
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beths
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The liposomal artimisin, combined with Dr Zhang's artimisin and crypto seems to help me
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Short story. I took oil of oregano when I first started getting sick, it didn't touch anything. I tried it 6 months ago, and it didn't seem to do anything. I've been on anti-parasitic pharmaceuticals for about 8 months rotating and now oil of oregano is hitting all of my symptoms except insomnia.
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bcb1200
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I have Babs Dunani and am only on the Liposomal Artemisinin from Hopkinton Drug (It is actually called "Artemisinin Essentials."
My LLMD helped design this and it is great. It gets Babs Duncani, Parasites, busts biofilm and helps with Lyme/Bart.
You don't need a Rx for this. Just call them.
I ramped up with: -First week: 1 capsule / day -Second week: 1 capsule 2x / day -Third week: 2 capsules in am, 1 in PM -forth week: 2 capules in AM, 2 in PM 1 week off
Then..continue long term with taking it 5 days on, 2 days off, 3 weeks on, 1 week off.
I"m not a doctor (disclaimer.)
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nefferdun
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You might consider pulsing Coartem. It is an anti-malarial drug (not an antibiotic) that you take for 3 days. I did it every 2-4 weeks and it got rid of the babesia duncani after doing ten months of mepron and then malarone.
I think the Art Essentials is a good idea. Another choice would be Artemix. It has artemether and artesunate, the two strongest derivatives of artemesinin. If you take it with grapefruit juice you will get a more powerful punch.
I also took LipoPhos EDTA to hit the biofilm protecting all these pathogens (created by PR). It is pretty darn disgusting to swallow so I am going to try the Art Essentials which is the same thing, only smaller dose.
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nefferdun
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Here is a brochure from Hopkinton Drug with some of their products, including Art Essentials and Mimosa Pudica. They both look really promising, as do the other things listed. Geez, I am glad I found this. Thanks bcb1200.
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RZR
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Buhner recommends different babesia protocols...sometimes cryptolepis, other times sida acuta, or a combo of crypto, sida, etc.
I plan to also use lipo artemesinin along with the protocol. Buhner answers a question stating artemesinin can be taken at the same time crytolepis dosage is taken. Anyone take them together?
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