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Recently I unearthed a document authored by the head of the RIPL lab at Porton Down, which is in charge of all Lym testing in England and Wales.
Quietly tucked away in an obscure corner of the Health & Safety Executive website, and clearly not meant for public consumption, it sets out Porton's vision for the future of British Lyme Disease -
a British version of the IDSA guidelines is to be created, and we are all to be sent either for steroid treatment or to Simon Wessely, Britain's most hated psychiatrist (scourge of the ME/CFS community whom he has collectively diagnosed as somatising.)
However, there were one or two interesting bits tucked away among the pages of lies. Firstly, Porton now admit that Borrelia infection can be acquired from an Ixodes ricinus tick after only 17 hours attachment.
This is considerably less than the usual "several days" that Denialists usually claim is necessary.
They also admit that an Ixodes ricinus tick infected with Lyme can transmit the Borrelia transovarially. In other words, a female tick passes the bacteria to her eggs, continuing and amplifying the cycle even without biting another animal.
Ticks lay thousands of eggs.
Now that they have (quietly) admitted these two facts re I. ricinus, perhaps it's time to re-visit the situation in American Ixodes scapularis, Ixodes pacificus, and other ticks too?
I have heard that if bacteria are in the tick's saliva, that it can be transmitted immediately, pretty much.
Question - I had not heard that ticks can pass bacteria to the next generation - I thought they were born bacteria-free and had to bite an infected animal.
Any more info on this?
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No, Robin. That is correct. They don't have to bite an animal to get infected. I think that is one reason they can carry SO MANY different bacteria and viruses.
I know of several people who are CERTAIN that they became ill within hours of a tick bite. (as in 1-3 hours)
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Who comes UP with these #s?! Since when do B.B. 'ketes only "check out" of the tick's mid-gut & disembark into the new host after "X" number of hours?? I mean... Do these 'reseaerchers' know ANYTHING about the mechanics of vector-borne diseases? SO many variables! *Documented* cases of Lyme transmission after only 4 to 6 hrs of 'attachment', according to Dr B's guidelines. And ample evidence it can take even less time. I STILL hear nurses regurgitating the 24 hr attachment "rule" around here. All so infuriating. I mean... open your eyes, medical folk! Aaaargh....
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Science is nothing like it used to be (kind of like the news, it's changed too). The ego has always been involved in the science arena, and competition as well (healthy), but now science based evidence is much like a court room: one side presents evidence to the other, only the other side has their hands in the pot (conflicts of interest).
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Science, by definition, is without opinion. Science is about the facts, period.
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I agree Beaches. Tell that to the idsa.
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