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chaps
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I've been eating coconuts for a while, spaced apart by about a week to prevent developing a food allergy to them. My recent allergy test shows that I do not have a delayed food allergy to them, so don't even go down that road.

I eat them in the evening.

Every time I eat one, I feel fatigued when I wake up the very next morning. And when I shred the fresh coconut meat and put it in a high-powered blender with the coconut water, then consume it, the fatigue is even more pronounced. The fatigue wears off in a day or so.

To me this means toxins. And toxins mean that I'm killing something.

Thus the question: What do coconuts kill? Parasites? Candida? Some other bug?

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Yes, coconuts (oil, meat, etc) can kill candida and possibly parasites. But then you may also be ingesting too much natural sugar and be GROWING yeast.

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Some people just aren't meant to eat some things. When I followed the blood type diet - EAT RIGHT FOR YOUR TYPE- (you can find it on line) I never felt better!

I believe in it fully.

Lyme or no lyme. Coconut makes me feel horrible if I eat it more than a 24 hour period within 5 days. So does potatoes, tomatoes, white rice, and a whole page of other foods.

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LisaK .. Then nightshades in general probably make you worse. Avoid potatoes, tomatoes, eggplant, peanuts and peppers.

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Lymetoo, let's not go down that road again about beating candida with diet.

The body needs the nutrients that are contained in fruits that have natural sugar. Without them, the body is being starved of nutrition that is critical for healing from chronic illness.

As far as proof in the pudding, I know of many people who have gone on the candida diet religiously and all it did was cause them to lose weight and get sicker.

Furthermore, the candida diet calls for eating meats and less carbs. Meats are not good for Lyme patients. They are acid forming in the system (as are a majority of foods on the candida diet), have all kinds hormones and abx in them, and the high protein diet will burn out the already stressed kidneys. If you're not aware of the importance of alkalinity in the body vs. acidity, then read the book, "Alkalize or Die."

If someone was to avoid all meats and fruits and just juice vegetables all of the time, now you've got a problem with too much oxalic acid and you're inviting kidney stones and kidney failure.

I don't have anything against eliminating most grains, starchy carbs, and potatoes because they don't have enough redeeming nutritional value. But the rest of that candida diet is senseless.

You'll never starve candida. It will survive no matter what. It will still be surviving in your body when your body is dead. But on the candida diet you will starve the body of essential nutrients. The object is to kill the candida, not kill the patient.

So please, let's not turn this into another debate about the candida diet. The diet is senseless, completely illogical, and counterproductive toward good health.

The object of the game is to get gut health back. A healthy gut does include low levels of candida. Gut health means ridding the gut of metals and other toxins that provide a hospitable terrain for parasites and OVERGROWTH of candida.

Get rid of the metals, get rid of the parasites, get the candida back in balance with the good bacteria, provide good nutrition to the body to help it heal. THAT'S the name of the game.

Back to the coconuts....

I'm guessing that the coconuts kill parasites, because normally when candida is killed (as evidenced by when I've taken a number of anti-candida remedies) a lot of intestinal gas is produced. I don't get the gas with coconuts.

I'm thinking, the coconuts are more likely to be killing parasites than candida.

But that's just a guess. I'm wondering if someone out there actually knows, either from articles they've read or other means what exactly coconuts (or the ingredients such as monolaurin) kill.

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I'm sorry but I doubt that coconuts are doing anything significant for parasites or pathogens.

It's just not that strong.

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Chiming in here about coconut oil. It has been invaluable for me killing candida and I believe helps dry up parasites and as a result my fatigue and brain fog have improved significantly.

It is very strong when taken in higher doses. There have been articles of people using it very successfully for Alzheimers.

Gael

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I found an article stating that coconuts have caprylic acid, which is anti-candida.

There's my answer.

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The coconut derivative monolaurin is strongly antiviral.

Here's an awesome abstract on monolaurin as an antibacterial agent.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17966176

I think it's a pretty good killer in high doses.

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Oh! I forgot why I got on this thread!

I thought your post said, "Why do coconuts kill?"

I thought they were willfully falling on people's heads, and someone was researching the phenomenon.

This is how my Lyme brain works.

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quote:
Originally posted by chaps:
I found an article stating that coconuts have caprylic acid, which is anti-candida.

There's my answer.

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That's what I said, chaps.

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yes, caprylic acid.

I used to take a homeopathic from Nelsons called CANDIDA or something like that. It was the ONLY thing that I really saw a difference in myself when I took it.

sadly, it seems like they aren't making it ? any more... I have been meaning to contact them and ask what the heck, but I forget all the time

must make note!

anyway, Those tiny simple pills helped me more with candida than any diet or caprylic acid or any other pill out there.

just my 2 cents

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