Ellen101
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If you have issues with leaky gut is there a safe way to take antibiotics without causing more damage?
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GretaM
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Ellen-About 4 years ago I was diagnosed with leaky gut.
It faded to the background when lyme started stealing the spotlight. Haha.
But I take abx no problems. They don't bother me.
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Ellen101
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The issue is you really wouldn't know they are not bothering you but chances are that is the case. They health issues caused by leaky gut are numerous and very serious. Sometimes it can be hard to know which symptoms are due to lyme and which are due to leaky gut.
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And then there is always the possibility the leaky gut is due to bartonella and that antibiotics would help. Hubby had gastritis issues and even a mild duodenal ulcer that were helped greatly with bart treatment. Of course he did other herbal things as well -- but the herbal things alone were not enough to heal the gut.
If you have leaky gut one thing you absolutely want to avoid is glutamine -- sometimes even the expensive protein meal replacement drinks can't be tolerated. UltraMeal for example would cause seizure like episodes for hubby.
And parasites can be another culprit triggering a leaky gut. As can candida. And then there is always the possibility that you do not produce enough stomach acid which also can cause a leaky gut.
Hubby had to deal with all the issues listed before we finally got on track so he could tolerate therapeutic doses of meds.
And food allergies too. Hubby learned he had to avoid gluten and casein (milk protein). He was technically not allergic and did not have actual celiac disease, but had pretty bad intolerances to those products.
There are quite a few books that deal with G.I. health. Probably one of the best tests is from the lab DiagnosTechs -- the complete G.I. panel.
You have to figure out what your triggers are before you can figure out how to heal the gut and move forward.
Some antibiotics are much easier on the stomach than others. And most LLMD's will tell you to take any antibiotics in the middle of a meal -- regardless of what the pharmacy instructions are. Just about the only exception is rifampin -- but even that one can be taken with a meal in the beginning.
Replacing the good bacteria is essential for everyone on antibiotics, but even more important if you have a leaky gut.
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Ellen101
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Bea why no glutamie ? It is supposed to be great for leaky gut. I just started it two days ago.
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Glutamine can cause some very real neuro issues.
I bought some years ago while working on my daughter's gut, we both took 1 capsule, and it was AWFUL.
I avoid it like the plauge.
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Before tickborne illnesses hubby took glutamine with no problems. But if you have any brain inflammation the glutamine can convert to glutamic acid which is a potent neurotoxin.
Bea Seibert
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I actually did a protocol with a Pharma-Nac (Pure N-acetylcystine)
with my daughter for OCD/Trichotillomania (skin picking) Study from NIH showing NAC can cross blood brain barrier,
to moderate excess glutamate in the brain. It actually worked. So excess glutamine/ glutamate can be a detriment to some folks.
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