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Hi, I am trying to create my monthly budget and I am wondering if anyone can estimate how much Buhner's monthly herbal protocol might be? Just an estimate is fine. How much do YOU spend on herbals and supplements? On any other healing treatments and what are they?
Thanks in advance!
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Depends which protocol you want to use. We use the bart protocol plus a few more things.
Houttuynia powder and Japanese knotweed from 1stChineseHerbs is about $15-$26/lb which will last 6-8 months at Buhner's suggested dosages.
Sida, Japanese knotweed from WoodLandEssence cost $42/4oz which will last about 1 month, same with hawthorne.
We use low dose astragalus (I know, it's contrindicated for chronic lyme, but we have found improvement with 500mg 3x weekly).
For us it is a lot cheaper, and actually as effective as abx. We are Canadian and pay everything out of pocket.
We also use liposomal glutathione ($65/month), NAC, l-glutamine, methyl B vitamins, phosphatidyl choline. Which aren't too much, but together they tend to add up.
-------------------- 13 yo DX PANS/Tourette's/Asperger's/ADHD treated for Igenex positive bartonella/IND lyme with 2 years of abx treatment. Weaned off abx April 2013 at 80% improvement. Continuing with Buhner bartonella/babesia protocols. Aug 2014 99% improvement. Posts: 265 | From Canada, Ontario | Registered: Jul 2013
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- To do a complete protocol, it would cost $100 minimum to $200. For a case that is not too complex or advanced.
Really, though, probably more, even up to $400. Even more for the more long standing coinfections.
BABESIA seems to cost far more to address than others, as I see it.
There are many items that must be on board for it to be complete, even with just lyme. And that would be for the KEY items that are specific to target the infections. Adding SUPPORT items might go beyond that.
You can scale it down to the most important items first, of course. I did that a couple years ago and I'm not much better. I really think it requires a full complement approach.
Now, the cost of these from the vendors suggested is very reasonable. It's just that it adds up. Still far cheaper than other plans. Just be sure if you try to cut corners with cheaper vendors that you have QUALITY products from REPUTABLE vendors.
Remember that all forms are not the same so it takes a bit of study when trading over to a different form of an herb to try to cut corners.
A powder of an herb is not necessarily the same as an extract, for instance . . . and there can be additives in various products, too.
It would be best, if at all possible, to work with an ILADS educated LL ND so that you can be sure you are getting what you need for YOUR body at each point in time.
There is no way that the same protocol can work for each person. So it's hard to say: get this, and this, and that's all there is to it. It is very complex to figure it all out. -
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- You asked about other avenues. IMO, Rife would be most cost effective in the long run, since treatment can take several years. Still, best with key support items.
LL Naturopathic links here, too, with various other treatment protocols listed.
Before you may any decision: GET THE LAST BOOK just entered in the LL ND thread. It's brand new and discusses 16 key points to success. -
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- Now, still, after all that if you have only so much you can afford, then do work with that. Find the very best KEY items that can cover various bases.
Remember, though, that combination approach is best, and frequent rotation, too.
The LL ND books and articles can further guide you if you in some of the principles of herbal approaches if you can't access a LL ND for your own counsel.
Be sure not to overlook Rx antibiotics, though, as they certainly do have their place. A good LL ND would also know how to suggest working with both Rx and complementary.
The best choices, IMO, if you have to keep it to bare minimum are in this group: If you can only afford one, I would start with Berberine.
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Costs me under 400. A year and i do cut herbs from 1 st chinese
If you do pills it would be way more
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I was interested in doing the bartonella protocol, from his most recent book.
The herbs weren't so "expensive", but when I added in the supplements for support systems, the price skyrocketed.
The first month would have been around $400, but that is also initial cost.
So I can't afford it currently.
However, I picked the herbs I thought would complement my abx protocl the best and bought those.
Red root, CSA, milk thistle, cordyceps
Those run me around $80 per month.
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Which brand of cordyceps do you use, Greta? I find that to be expensive because the dosage Buhner recommends is so much!
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