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renny1985
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I had scarlet fever as a young child (In about 1990 when I was 5). I reported this to LLMD as I find it a little curious. He says that it is possible that is when I was bitten and it was really Lyme.

He says scarlet fever rash looks a lot like Lyme rash and the symptoms could have been Lyme. I am just curious if anyone else has had scarlet fever...

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Yep. In my case, the rash was not a lyme rash (but may have been confused Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever). Pulling off ticks was a daily deal with me as a child in the summer.

Still, Scarlet Fever can damage the heart and the brain. It can have serious consequences. I was in and out of consciousness, medicine did not bring down fever so I was packed in ice to, as my mom put it, "keep my brain from frying."

As a child of about 6 to 8 years of age, I took everything very literally and figured if no one showed up in my bedroom with a frying pan, I'd be okay.

I never recovered, really. Never had energy again.
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I know my mom had it, and she was sick her entire life...arthritis, duodenal ulcers (from h pylori, though they didn't know this back then), and finally lung cancer that spread to her brain...

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A while back I compared various photos of the SF rash with that of RMSF. I'm pretty sure, in my case, that the doctor was correct and that I had SF - at that time. I did have a RMSF rash years later but no one knew then what it was, thinking I was just allergic to something on my Grandmother's farm where I galloped all summer - and they also thought back then that RMSF was only in Colorado.

For a start in understanding the differences:

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scarlet_Fever

Scarlet fever is a disease caused by exotoxin released by Streptococcus pyogenes[1].

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Scarlet_fever_2.jpg

Scarlet Fever Rash

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streptococcus_pyogenes

Streptococcus pyogenes

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocky_Mountain_Spotted_Fever

Rocky Mountain spotted fever - a rickettsial infection- see rash photo

http://www.lymediseaseassociation.org/index.php?option=com_phocagallery&view=category&id=11:rashes&Itemid=331

Lyme Disease Association

Rash Photos for Tick-Borne infections
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renny1985
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Thanks for the info guys. I don't remember being sick after scarlet fever until about 5 years later. It is unclear to me how I felt in those years...though I remember being okay as a young kid.

It is interesting though that others have had this and now have Lyme. I am going to read what you sent Keebler. I wish I had pics of my rash.. I wish the doctors were smarter and didn't miss my diagnosis for soo long.

You would think in Lyme country they would know better what to look for!! But, no.

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I do remember, as a side note, having severe heel pain throughout a lot of my childhood following SF. I wonder if this was really Bart? I have so much treating and healing to do it overwhelms me. At least I finally know what devil I am fighting with.
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I know this is an old post, but rather than making a new one I will contribute to the last topic of scarlet fever (SF).


My daughter was bit by a tick at age 3+ & we pulled the rather small nymph deer tick within hours. It was not engorged or anything. By the time she was 5/6 she started complaining about tummy aches. This went on & off for months.

Then when she was 6 came the headaches. By the time she was 7 she had more headaches & they would mostly come toward the end of the day. The more tired she was, the more likely she would get headaches. She also got migratory pains by this time.

One day it would be the bottom of her foot, next day her neck, other day her lower leg or arm. At times she pointed at her breast or heart.

She had been bitten at 7 again (Summer 2012), despite our no grass rule. She had walked home from school on a black top road, up our black top driveway & into the patio of pavers. She went on the trampoline that day, which were on the pavers (I had moved from the grass months ago).


A week ago my daughter started developing fevers & was very tired. She started developing bumps & rashes on her back & then they spread all over her body. Docs quickly confirmed Scarlet Fever & she was placed on two ABX.


Within the same day of taking the ABX she started having more energy & doing the things she was accustomed to & by the next day she seemed all better & still continuing her ABX.

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It was my first diagnosis in college.

I don't believe it was Scarlett Fever.

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My daughter was diagnosed with PANDAS
(Pediatric autoimmune neuro disorder associated with strep)

before we found Lyme and Bart. So we put her on Azithromycin for the first time in her life (and only been on Amoxicillin as a baby 1x before, no antibx except that ever)

2-3 days into Azith a scarlintina rash came over her back side-
dead ringer for what I thought was latent strep/ scarlet fever infection.

Now I think it was Bartonella coming out through her skin.
Now PANDAS is called PANS, not only specific strep triggered,
and many parents are finding Lyme and co.

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My sister that has rheumatoid arthritis had scarlet fever as a child. Just her. The rest never got it. Now I got mono and measles.

Shes been sick her entire life.

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My dad had scarlet fever when he was a baby, but he wasn't sickly his whole life. He just was off mentally and the scarlet fever caused permanent damage to his ability to hear and damage in his eyes.

He led a very healthy lifestyle up to 79 years old. However, he did die of liver failure (cirrhosis) and didn't drink alcohol except on occasion when he got to be in his late 70's.

Maybe scarlet fever in 1917 was a different strain of scarlet fever today? My dad was even a baby when he got it. He was only 1 year old.

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I had it when I was 18. It didn't really start with a sore throat though. It was right before high school graduation and I missed out on parties and finals...

I'm pretty sure it was Scarlet Fever because I had a positive Strep test. I had these massively swollen glands under my ears, they stayed like that for months.

The rash looked pretty bad, I was covered, and inflamed. I remember it started on my chest. I didn't really think anything of it but my mother who was a nurse wanted me to get checked out.

I also had the worst case of chicken pox the hospital had ever seen (at the time) when I was 5.

I had Bartonella when I was 22. My feet hurt so bad in the morning that I couldn't even walk on them hardly. Then they would be fine after I was up for 10 minutes or so. I also had become so depressed and anxious that I went to therapy. Then it just all went away on its own.

The timing on that was soon after I has gotten a new kitten. It was after that that I went on to struggle with sleep for pretty much most of my adult life. I don't know if it was Bart, or my susceptibility to mold that caused it...

Then came the tick bite, of course down hill big time from there...

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