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The second it happened, I knew I had done something to my tooth... I called my dentist and he confirmed what I dreaded to hear...
Root canal !!!
I wanted to have a meltdown in the dentist chair...
Not only does it cost a freaking fortune (1200.00) but I've read the bacteria can still remain after the root canal.
It's a molar, so I am very seriously considering having it pulled. I don't want to be toothless either.
What's your thoughts..??
Thanks
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I have a root canal and a mouth full of amalgams. I had an IV EDTA heavy metals challenge and my mercury levels were acceptable.
i would not have a tooth pulled unless you put in an implant because your other teeth will wander and cause problems. I would get a second opinion about the root canal. A dentist once told me I needed one and a second dentist fixed my tooth for $75! I can't even tell which tooth it was, he did such a good job.
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I also have a root canal and amalgams. I tested high in mercury and other metals.
With chelation, all levels went way down.
Like nefferdun said, your teeth will shift if the area doesn't get filled in with either an implant or I think it's a bridge type thing?
I paid somewhere around $200 I think for a root canal and also an excellent job.
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I have one root canal. It lets me know quite often that it is not a happy area. I'm tired of worrying about it and fussing with it to try to calm it down.
Now another molar that was below a molar that was pulled 4 days prior to illness from he!! has finally after almost 15 years been screaming to.
We had removed the tons of mercury and removed a silver crown from that molar about 3 years ago. It hasn't been happy since I cleaned up the territory.
So I'm seeing a dentist locally that is lyme educated and have him send me on with instructions to a guy on how to clean and remove the root canal finally and pull and clean out the other molar.
I've been down the road of periodontal spending mega bucks to save a tooth. Nobody will know these molars are gone. I have others to chew with.
I just don't see implants until later, if ever. I am leery of my body accepting a implant. I certainly wouldn't do it without seeing if that material is compatible with my body, thru muscle testing.
Pam
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Some dentists know how to avoid root canals and Ive had good success with one of these. You can read about it here and theres a link to search for one of these types of dentists in your area.
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I didn't get a root canal on that tooth I was talking about - not very clear - so that is why I said to get a second opinion. Root canals are BIG money and dentists are eager to do them when they aren't always necessary.
I think an implant is about 2K - that is a lot but so is a root canal and crown.
I don't know what the big deal is about getting our amalgams out. Do you know it is actually considered so unsafe to take these fillings out that it is unethical to do it? I know the dentists that do it correctly use damns and take a lot of precautions, but that is still when you are most likely to get the mercury poisoning.
I know the mercury vapor leaches into your body but you can just chelate it out and then continue to chelate it. There are a lot of things that will bind with it. There is oral liposomal EDTA, vitamin C and glutathione that you could take now and then.
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Neff, I didn't have just a couple silver fillings in my mouth. I had at least 10 fillings and 8 crowns.
Some of them so old, I bet some were from 30 years ago. As a child when all us kids(5) were taken to the dentist at one time, it was nothing unusual for me to have 5 cavities at one time.
Yes my parents made us brush our teeth. No we did not drink soft drinks, only on special evening once a year, or eat sweets or candy. They couldn't afford such stuff.
Myself oldest and second and third sibling all have had teeth issues since we were young and also as adults. One brother because he doesn't take care of himself at all is missing many teeth including front teeth.
There is no doubt in my mind that garbage had seeped into my body throughout my life. The piles and heaps of silver that were under those crowns were unbelievable.
I fired the dentist that pulled that tooth and sent me out of his office with what he knew was a infected gum and bone infection without abx back in July '99.
It wasn't until I no longer felt like I was dying that I told my new dentist...I want my mouth cleaned up of all silver and every silver crown gone.
We used all the safety precautions, dam, eye protection. I took chlorella by the handfuls for 2 yrs while we cleaned up my mercury dump.
My new dentist made fun of the piles/heaps of silver Mercury that had been piled up under my crowns. She had never seen such a mess in a persons mouth. She just retired and yes she had been dentists for years.
I wouldn't/won't chelate until I have my mouth in the best possible shape it can be. I don't believe in cleaning up with chelation as long as there is still a source of mercury dump in my mouth and dental issues in question like a root canal.
I believe based on some reading/research the area in eastern Ohio that us older children grew up was a toxic wasteland and something caused the 3 of us to have dental issues all our lives.
The two younger siblings hardly have a cavity and certainly don't have the teeth issues we did. Quite obvisious something comes into play.
That tooth that was pulled in summer of 99 had been worked on by perio and dentists for 5 yrs and thousands of dollars to save it. It throbbed like it was in a vice everyday.
I insisted it come out. It was painful. So was the straw that broke the camels back. I already had lyme in my system.
Sure enough when I picked up my records from that dentist...he had noted how ill I had been in the time that he pulled that tooth and my next cleaning.
Idiot, he knew better than to send me out of there without abx to fight infection. I didn't. I would bet money if I had a good dental xray done by someone that knows cavitations...that empty space is a toxic bacteria hide out.
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the thing is old mercury filling start to rot underneath. They crack and bacteria grows in the cracks.. and often all the bacteria doent get removed whent he filling is placed.
A dentist that uses ozone, a microscope and sensitve bacteria meters can do the job the best. Oone can kill bacteria 2mm right into the dentin and pulp, before the new filling is placed.
Dams are not all that effective. Constant suction on the area when the filling is extracted is the newest protocol, is my understanding anyway. So all spray during drilling is removed, all gas, all particles as soon as they are loosened.
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I did not read all above but have experience and would never do root canal. I had the one i had extracted. Much better
A close friend had many root canals out...not sure what was put back in...but lyme tx didnt work until he got them out
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I highly recommend seeing a biological dentist.
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Oh I had constant suction alright two hands including mine sucking everything out. Some of pieces were so large they couldn't be sucked up unless it was by a vacuum hose size nozzle.
Toxic waste in our mouths!!! And our dental insurance company still won't pay for resin except in the front 4 teeth.
One day ADA & insurance companies are going to get sued and loose a huge case when the public finds out they are still putting that toxic matter into patients mouths.
They are hurting our children's future putting trash in their mouths. Why doesn't the powers that be protect us?
It is unacceptable!
Pam
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Pam, I have a mouth full of amalgams too. My mother even took us to a dental school once and they probably drilled half my tooth away. I would have to get a lot of crowns and I just don't want to go there.
I just hope my heavy metals test was accurate because my mercury was not high. I had really high lead and cadmium. I also had high BPA's, which is used in composite fillings so even that is not completely safe.
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Neff, your heavy metal test looks like mine that was done in '03 or '04 with LLMD.
I too did not have high levels of mercury. Neff that doesn't make any sense that our levels were not thru the roof??????
I too had high lead and cadmium. I can't remember the others that were high.
Neff, I'd say that metal testing failed to detect the mercury that is bury deep within our entire being? You?
Pam
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I had all my amalgam fillings replaced one by one years ago - but the very last one i decide because of cost to replace with amalgam instead of gold....got back to my office and collapsed...went back to the dentist and paid up...the sweating, headache etc went away almost at once.
that being said about a year and half go i did have a root canal on a molar...it's not at all Happy! every night i get home and it bothers me at some point, actually it's alerting me to its presence as i type..i'm seriously thinking of having it extracted and replaced with a bridge...
oh, and btw, my other symptoms seem to be worse since the root canal...when i thought i was getting back to my former self....
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