canefan17
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Has anyone found any herbs/supplements that work for Mycoplasma?
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Digestive enzymes. I use Super Digestaway by Soloray and also take them in between meals. They are plant based and really have helped with brain fog also.
I remember reading Dr.Garth Nicholsons research speaking about taking enzymes to get rid of mycoplasma.
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Check out Buhner's latest book on treating Myco and Bart. Sida Acuta is one of the core protocol items, and maybe Japanese Knotweed.
Sorry, I don't have quick access to my copy to help more.
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My husband and I (both not lyme sufferers) got a crazy mycoplasma infection targeting lungs and joints in December.
We treated with oregon grape (berberine), rhodiola rosea, cordyceps, and olive OIL and olive leaf.
The olive oil was yucky, but we got it down with a bit of juice.
We also supplemented vitamins E, A, B, & C to replace nutrient savaging.
Systemic enzymes on an empty stomach 3 times a day for 3 week and now once a day.
We have been treating for almost two months and are 95% better symptom wise.
There are many ideas on how to treat this one. We got advice from an EAV practitioner and I read Buhner's book too.
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canadianmama - how much olive oil did you take?
Interesting about the enzymes, I had not heard of that. Plant based digestive enzymes?
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What test was used to determine your mycoplasma infections? Were you in an area of heavy chemtrail spraying?
It seems that chemtrail spraying during the months of Nov-Dec could be related to the spate of mycoplasma infections during these 2 months.
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canefan17
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momintexas,
I think systemic enzymes. Buhner mentioned Serrapeptase.
canadianmama,
Interesting about Olive Oil. I've taken it in the past with lemons and on a few occasions got HUGE frontal headaches (the same ones I'd get from flagyl).
But with flagyl the headache would eventually clear and the abx became extremely helpful. Could Olive Oil be killing Myco?
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Momintexas: we were taking olive oil 1/2 oz twice a day, 2Tbs/day now.
Yes the enzymes were systemic enzymes, Wobenzym and EZ balance were the two brands we used.
dal123, yes we see lots of chemtrails here. Our land is quite open so on clear days we can watch the sky fill up with them. Yuck,
Canefan17. My husband lost weight rapidly.
He was sicker then me suddenly could hardly stand. Luckily I caught it too because neither him nor our doctor were thinking infection.
The doc sent him to a rheumatologist and they were talking sarcoidosis (basically a incurable chronic illness).
Then I started getting sore and dizzy. I insisted on getting us EAV tested and we both tested positive for mycoplasma in a big way. With in two weeks of treatment my husband was feeling so much better he was dancing around in the kitchen.
Both our doc and the specialist were amazed at the turnaround. They also were both interested and not condoning for our treatment plan, so that was good. But it was also suggested that it was a virus that just "went away on it's own" HA!
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canadianmama,
That is so great to here. For whatever reason I can't take cordyceps now! My system is too sensitive I think *shrugs*
And I could not take wheat germ or the other mushroom Buhner recommends for Mycoplasma wasting. I was so discouraged after that.
I tested highly positive for Mycoplasma in my most recent lab test which sort of puts a spin on my thinking that all my symptoms were Bartonella.
I truly now believe Mycoplasma is in there too and possibly causing the weight loss issue and other things.
It's interesting because HIV patients go through muscle wasting and one of the remedies for that is Olive Oil/lemon drink 3 times a day. Wonder if they are killing some opportunistic infections.
Which Olive Oil were you guys taking?
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We took a Earth's Choice" extra virgin organic olive oil. For no special reason other then it was the best option at our local store.
Yes, I was really interested to learn about the antimicrobial properties of olive oil.
I had always thought the Mediterranian diet was healthy due to good food balance, but what if they are staying healthy due to continuous "clean up" of bacterial, myco and such!
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- SEAGATE also makes a very nice EVOO. from trees in the San Diego, CA area - it is smooth and delicious (though the bottle is clear so keep from light). Their website is in this set:
OLIVE LEAF EXTRACT - LINKS -
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- To to have this in this set for those not yet familiar with this top researcher.
Prof. Garth Nicholson's research in Mycoplasma is to be commended. He does not treat. Still, he is THE top expert researcher in this field (although that does not mean others don't have some good insight, too).
Here is his main site but also cross search at www.ilads.org for his presentations & papers there.
MYCOPLASMA -
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- Sorry to have missed who recently posted this in another thread. Not sure if the specific strain studied here translates to other strains, still, this would be good to consider as any treatment plan is explored. The illustration is striking.
7 February 2014 - SCRIPPS RESEARCH INSTITUTE/SCIENCE
Scientists find protein that helps bacteria misdirect immune system (in one strain of Mycoplasma) -
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How to find an ILADS educated LL professional in complementary fields (naturopathic, acupuncture, etc.) -- A good LL ND will also know all about mycoplasma. -
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canefan17
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Canadianmama,
Your mailbox is full.
This was my reply
"Great help! Thanks so much.
I live in Houston (city). I shop with Sarah at 1stchineseherbs.com or I just go on amazon.
I used to cap herbs myself too."
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canefan17
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So do you guys/gals think that's possible - that when I've taken Olive Oil in the past and have gotten a nasty frontal headache that I may have been killing something?
It's so strange that flagyl did the same thing for me! And flagyl was a very good drug to me.
Hmmmmmm
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- canefan,
Could be.
Could also be that it's just strong and it's the reaction of your body to that. Best not to take alone if the reaction is strong. Enjoy with food.
Olive oils can differ greatly in their strengths and some will burn on first hit or cause a little irritation of throat a little later, it's just what they do - and some folks experience that more than others.
Olive oil can go bad - and do some bad things to us then. Know the date a bottle was processed because it matters as much as where it's been (re: heat, light).
Be sure its cold pressed, EXTRA virgin olive oil. EVOO. Organic certification is not necessarily key, as long as they operate within though guidelines.
Not from plastic. Metal tins can be tricky, depending upon the metals used. Glass is best. Some say darker glass, some say clear is okay as long as it's cared for accordingly at all points.
Also be aware that there is a LOT of fake olive oil out there, some that is not at all what is says it is. Be certain of the source, and all aspects of their operation. Absolutely certain.
The label cannot be trusted, sadly. Additional research is required.
It is also good to take a "course" in tasting, so to speak. Find a good website and read, watch instruction videos of what a good quality EVOO would taste like and the different points to consider -- also to know how the different labels can vary.
Excellent EVOOs can vary widely in many points, depending upon so many variables.
Gourmet sources might be best to guide for the culinary EVOOs that would also have health properties. Get the best you can, within reason of course. Enjoy with your food. Drizzle on just before serving.
Lesser grade EVOO would be used in actual cooking, still an excellent brand, just a less expensive one from one used for finishing (or counting on for the best health benefits). -
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Ok thanks. I usually just get it from Whole Foods - you can usually trust them to bring in good OO - but maybe not
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- It's been a while since some of the news of this broke. Still, just last week I saw a report about this problem still being very much an issue, worldwide. The labeling laws in Italy don't help much, either.
SOY oil is still being found in a lot of bottles that are supposed to be pure EVOO. I don't recall where I read that last week, though.
Likely the stores listed in the reports below have made corrections, still, (sadly) it requires a bit of investigating to be sure.
I do hope that Whole Foods has in place a plan now (but I would not exactly say I would trust them) so you might want to find out what that is (to be sure they just don't trust someone in the chain without doing all their homework).
This is why I like to buy straight from the producer. I'm glad to have found SEAGATE's to be very good, I know all the details. We also have some local producers that I hope to try.
December 12, 2011 - NPR - 20-minute audio interview
Excerpts from the article:
. . . many of the bottles labeled "extra-virgin olive oil" on supermarket shelves have been adulterated and shouldn't be classified as extra-virgin, says New Yorker contributor Tom Mueller.
Mueller's new book, Extra Virginity: The Sublime and Scandalous World of Olive Oil, chronicles how resellers have added lower-priced, lower-grade oils and artificial coloring to extra-virgin olive oil, before passing the new adulterated substance along the supply chain.
(One olive oil producer told Mueller that 50 percent of the olive oil sold in the United States is, in some ways, adulterated.) . . .
. . . Bad or rancid olive oil loses the antioxidant and anti-inflammatory properties of olive oil, says Mueller.
"What [good olive oil] gets you from a health perspective is a cocktail of 200+ highly beneficial ingredients that explain why olive oil has been the heart of the Mediterranean diet," he says. "Bad olives have free radicals and impurities . . . . -
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Thank you all for sharing the info!
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Do y'all take the olive oil straight off the spoon? And on an empty stomach?
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Correct. Possibly some other Myco species and not something entirely different.
IgM is the initial response and IgG is the later response. Most docs interpret this as meaning elevated IgM means current infection and elevated IgG with normal IgM means a past infection.
But there are who feel an elevated IgG indicates a chronic infection. This makes sense to me. IgM is the initial "simple" reaction and IgG is the later "specific" response. So it makes sense to me that this specic response would stay elevated during chronic infection.
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canefan17
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Makes sense to me. When I was using a coil machine I would definitely respond to Mycoplasma frequencies.
Bartonella frequencies just made me feel better. Literally minutes after running the coil my Bart symptoms were gone.
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