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sonee123
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Hi Everyone,

I think alot of you my recent escalated health issues. I live in Denmark and i am flying to the status this friday for a annual visit.

I had posted while ago with swollen lymph node. They did a CT scan and found nothing in stomach or chest. So they did not do full biopsy.

My node has started to shrink alot. However on the blood test few months back i got postive on quantiferror TB test. I didnt think much of it since they did chest x ray and sputum test which all came back negative while i was pregnant.

Then they did the needle biopsy on the swollen lymph node to check for cancer but didnt check for TB! How dumb and now my node has shrunk and the docs are saying we cant do biopsy for tb since its shrunk alot.

This leaves me in a very insecure and worried situation. I always have horrible horrible winter coughs always have flu like symptoms here and there. Post partum pregnancy symptoms have been hell.

I am starting to loose weight a bit too but no fever and i generally feel like **** but i am eating fine and taking care of my baby.

i have tons of symptoms from joint pain to full truck load of neuro and gut.

I feel so helpless as to where to go because here they pay no attention to lyme or co.

I myself am confused whether its TB or Lyme? If i had active TB for the past 8 years something would of showed up in the scans and tests. So maybe its dormant and lyme is the leader.

Any thoughts? Here they dont treat Latent TB they are saying no need to but does anyone else has this?

I am afraid i wont have insurance in the US either this is a nightmare two days before my trip [Frown]

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May God Bless you, answer your prayers, relieve you of your pain and make you stronger than what you are today. Ameen.

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Catgirl
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That is a shame they don't treat lyme there because joint pain, neuro and gut scream lyme. I wish I could help with your TB, but I don't know much about it. Hopefully someone will come along here to help.

Have you read Buhner's book on lyme yet? His herbs help many people. I think if I had no doc I would at least do herbs along with the salt/c protocol.

Parasite treatment helps fight my lyme too, so you want to hit parasites (we all have them). All the bugs live happily together.

There is a good book called "Why Can't I Get Better" by doc H. It has a road map to help guide you. You might also pick up a copy for your regular doc--maybe he will treat you once he reads it.

I would also get a copy of Cure Unknown and give it to your doc (it's worth a shot).

http://www.amazon.com/Why-Cant-Get-Better-Solving/dp/1250019400/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1408546887&sr=1-1&keywords=why+cant+i+get+better

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anuta
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I think many Lyme sufferers have TB activated, they just don't know about it.

If I remember well, Brussels and bejoy here on LN have posted about their experiences with TB.

Both of them had TB activated (ART tested) and treated it with TB homeo nosode successfully.

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Marnie
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I will apologize upfront for the length of this. It is a "cram course". Take your time...read it over and over. Study it. Learn as much as you can.
Knowledge is power and exercising our mind is AS IMORTANT as exercising our bodies.

I don't know a whole lot about TB except for this:

Humira, to reduce inflammation associated with many diseases - specifically to lower TNFa - is *contraindicated* if someone has TB.

Persons are supposed to be tested for TB before getting Humira, but that doesn't always happen (my sis).

While Humira did help reduce inflammation significantly (1 year on it), it did NOT stop the destructive joint damage triggered by Bb.

Something you said rang a bell. "I *always* have horrible *winter* coughs."

Winter = less light. Coughing...TB...to the point where the sputum is bloody. Winter = latent -> somewhat active TB?

Another factor...less light = lowered vitamin D which absolutely CAN make you more depressed!

Healthy levels of vitamin D are so important that:

"Vitamin D supplements are inexpensive and offer a simple solution to raise vitamin D levels to an adequate status.

In addition, vitamin D levels should be routinely measured in everyone and

should become a standard procedure in prenatal care." 2014

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/02/140226110836.htm

Vitamin D3 *with* vitamin K2 should help.


Many years ago, TB infected persons were sent to places where they were exposed to a lot of light, fresh air, had good food and removed from others so as to not expose them to TB.

Of course nowadays we treat it with antibiotics...several for many months.

But, we have to take into consideration a false positive TB test. Sometimes this happens. It should be repeated.

While you were pregnant, your chest x-ray came back negative?

There are massive changes (immune wise) when pregnant so women don't "attack" a fetus.

Could pregnancy temporarily put *TB* in remission as it looks to do in other diseases?

I assume you are talking about post partum depression which is not to be taken lightly and needs to be addressed. Have you told your doctor how depressed you feel? Have you had your vitamin D level checked (simple blood test)?

Are you nursing the infant? If you have lyme, this is NOT recommended.

TB and Bb:

Ying Zhang, MD, Ph.D., professor of Molecular Microbiology and Immunology at Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, Baltimore, Maryland.

***The drug Pyrazinamide (PZA) in combination with other drugs, is used to kill drug-resistant

strains of latent tuberculosis bacteria.***

Dr. Zhang will assess the activity of PZA against “persisters,” Borrelia that become tolerant to antibiotics yet later rebound to start a new wave of infection.

He will then test compounds singly, and in combination with the PZA, to find an optimal treatment regimen for patients with chronic Lyme disease.

http://www.lymeresearchalliance.org/index_6_new_grants.html

If you DO have active TB, you should NOT fly on an airplane - especially for lengthy times!

http://www.cntraveler.com/stories/2013-12-03/tb-scare-on-us-airways-flight

"Treatment of latent TB Infection greatly reduces the risk that TB infection will

progress to TB disease.

Certain groups are at very high risk of developing TB disease once infected.

Every effort should be made to begin appropriate treatment and to ensure completion of the entire course of treatment for latent TB infection.

Consultation with a TB expert is advised if the known source of TB infection has

drug-resistant TB."


http://www.cdc.gov/tb/topic/treatment/ltbi.htm

When someone from another country visits the U.S., typically hospitals charge the person's insurance carrier in that country. So whatever insurance coverage you have in Denmark, should pay for treatment here.

If you come to the U.S., bring your medical test results with you. While they are likely to be repeated, it is still a starting point.

In the following link...scroll down to traditional Chinese Medicine as it relates to TB.

Notice the mention of berberine (dose and timing matters!).

http://www.jthoracdis.com/article/view/617/html

Native Americans used it many "moons" ago:

http://healthcare.utah.edu/healthlibrary/related/doc.php?type=19&id=Goldenseal

and others.

Berberine in combination with ... (2013 information):

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24060867

Notice the 1st one ASSISTS the second.

My personal choice of berberine is the HCL form as in over-the-counter (Amazon) Glycox 500mg.

The other listed is a Rx typically given to treat yeast infections i.e., candida.

Too many pathogens have become antibiotic resistant.

So....bottom line...if you are on your own and can't get medical "support",

Consider...Glycox. Also try really hard to get a doctor to order Fluconazole and use that combination.

Add also vitamin D3 with vitamin K2. Vitamin K2 functions differently than "regular" vitamin K.

The conversion (K1->K2) happens in the mitochondria, the powerhouses of our cells.

In MANY diseases and because of genetic differences, MANY persons suffer from "Mitochondrial Dysfunction"!

If the "mitochondrial dysfunction" is pathogen triggered, then treating the pathogen should in time resolve the problem.

If "mitochondrial dysfunction" is genetically triggered (bipolar - possible MTHFR underlying problem) then mitochondrial "support" maybe necessary.

Lithium stimulates "mitochondrial biogenesis" (make more mitochondria), but

so does an over the counter supplement called PQQ.

While making more mitochondria is a good thing, they need to be able to FUNCTION properly.

In steps MitoQ (not if you have celiac and lack B6 and B12 to convert Ubiquinone to ubiquinOL - the anti-oxidant - then you may need the UbiquinOL version).

UbiquinOL has very recently been found to help kids with autism.

MitoQ may help those with ALS and others!

MitoQ is ubiquinone attached to a carrier that functions like, but IS NOT, phosphatidylcholine (which is one of Bb's lipoproteins).

That carrier in MitoQ helps transport the "Q" into the mitochondria where the transfer of electrons happens, where we make a LOT of ATP in a process called oxidative phosphorylation.

You may have a combination of TB and Bb.

There are ways to impact both simultaneously.

You can recover.

God Bless. Look for Him within you. He is the light. He is love.

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