I recently treated a candida overgrowth (my 2nd in a few years) and think I might still have something left over.
When I get the die off, one of my symptoms is that my neck feels like it's closing in. I learned that this is because the toxins released during die off fill up your lymph nodes.....many of which are in your neck.
I've been eating very healthy, but still have to call my LLMD about possibly needing another round of Fluconazole.
My symptoms aren't awful, but they are annoying. Fatigue, weakness, lightheaded, gas/bloating......and that neck closing in feeling.
Can this feeling be a result of die off....even though I'm not currently on Fluconazole? I do take Kolorex (anti-fungal supplement) once daily.
Can this - along with a healthy diet, lemon water, epsom salt baths, etc. - be enough to cause some die off that would explain my symptoms?
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one of worst die off symptom is feeling like my throat is closing and I can't breath. almost like a panic attack.
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It's a strange feeling because while it feels like someone has a hand around my neck, I can still get nice full breaths of air.
The only time I have ever experienced this was when treating and going through a herx.
Hopefully, that would indicate that it's not an allergy related issue.
Glad to know that a healthy diet alone is enough to starve the yeast and trigger die off. That makes me feel better to know that my symptoms are most likely because of this and not some unknown problem.
I won't be able to speak with my LLMD for another week and a half, so for now, I'll just stick to healthy eating, lemon water and supplements.
Oh, I usually notice this feeling right after taking my Oregacillin and Phytogen supplements.
I've taken them before to help ward off colds that were starting up and never felt this way. I've read that Oregacillin is strong enough to cause die off, so I wonder if the supplements are simply working to rid my body of the yeast.
Cannot wait to feel better.
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It's awful. I still can't believe how significantly it affects us.
Today, my upper inner thighs are sore. Isn't this also a lymph node area?
Would totally make it likely that these are all die off symptoms.
Now I get why some people recommend doing the Candida diet for a week or two before starting the prescription anti-fungals. Lessens the load before the stronger die off starts!
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Now I get why some people recommend doing the Candida diet for a week or two before starting the prescription anti-fungals. Lessens the load before the stronger die off starts!
- Yes, very true!
As for your thighs, I do find all over body pain can come from candida.
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after I first got bit one of my worst symptoms was this. I remember being out somewhere and it felt like somebody had their hands around my throat. I literally couldn't breath and was gasping for air. I was choking and truly thought I was going to pass out.
it has happened several times during treatment and most recently when I was taking fungal defense.
I started choking and couldn't swallow. my throat felt frozen.
it's terrifying.
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randibear.....I'm so sorry that you have to deal with this horrible symptom. I've never had it that bad, so I can only imagine what you must go through.
What freaks me out is wondering whether I am having an allergic reaction to something that might completely close my throat....
or if it really is just the die off reaction.
I can say this.....I've been paying very close attention and noticed that this feeling comes and goes at any time.
It doesn't happen only after taking a pill or eating a certain food. It can just spring up hours after I've had anything to eat or drink, taken a pill, etc.
Then it goes away. Then it might come back later.
Today, I felt it after drinking lemon water and then again after eating a serving of broccoli with 2 cloves of garlic.
This gives me hope that it really is just the die off. I know that we're not doctors, but in your opinions, does this sound more like die off?
I would think that if I was allergic or sensitive to a specific thing, I would get this reaction only after contact with it.
It sounds like randibear only deals with this when treating issues that result in die off.
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Can yeast cause swollen legs and ankles? I'm treating for Bart so maybe that's it? My legs are so swollen and the right more than the left. Also, I have knots on the outside of my ankles. What's up with that? I have the ugliest Kankles on the planet!
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yeah I've monitored out the yingyan. I think I have severe candida. now I can take diflucan with no problem but if I try to treat it herbally, like say oregano or garlic, then I have problems.
whether it's allergic reaction I don't think so but herbalsike fungal defense set it off.
gosh I wish I could get diflucan.
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You said you wish you could get diflucan. Is there a reason you can't get access to it?
Funny you mention herbs because the fresh garlic and oregacillin supplement seem to trigger my die off symptoms.
Mvdr,
I haven't experienced swollen ankles from candida or Bart, but maybe others have? I'm not sure what can cause that....but I hope you're able to get an answer. That can't be fun.
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Ugh...I am up in the middle of the night dealing with this darn tight neck/throat thing.
I have this constant post nasal drip, which I think is contributing to this feeling.
Why does this happen when I can't talk to my doctor until the week after next?!?
I'm so mad because for weeks I've suspected a lingering candida issue, but thought I could knock it out with a good diet.
I am now practically having an anxiety attack worrying that my throat is slowly closing up and that I'll only know for sure when I can no longer breathe.
The anxiety that goes along with this is pretty bad right now.....sorry to vent.
It's like I always knew that this was a candida die off symptom......and suddenly am freaking out worrying that my throat is swelling up.
As far as I know, if your throat swells up, it happens pretty fast and doesn't slowly swell over a period of many days.
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you mention knots on your ankles. I have golf ball size lumps just in front and below the ankle.
if you feel of it its tender and sore. feels mushy and firm.
is this what you have?
on the diflucan ive tried three doctors--no go. I get the ole "oh thats just morning tongue". oh yeah? my tongue is white and your finger makes a deep groove. also the sides of my throat are white.
I hate doctors.
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randibear, my ankles have dense, fleshy knots on the outside of the ankle. Not hard like bone but not real mushy. They look like tumors but aren't, I don't think. Like half of a golf ball but not hard. So weird and the ugliest ankles! I call them KANKLES! Could that be a Bart thing?
Just saw the video about Lymph drainage and wondering if my swollen legs are related to that. I have 5 siblings and no one has these legs.
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