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randibear
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my doc is adamant I go back on a statin. I have fatty liver disease and he said this will treat it.

I've never heard of this. have you?

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Uh, I don't think so-

My H has non- alcoholic fatty liver, and is on statins, but on statins for heart disease-rampant in his family, despite exercise (although H could use a better diet for sure.)

And, he can't go up too high on the statins because then liver enzymes will go up- stress on the liver.

I could be wrong, but I've never heard of statins for fatty liver.
Now, fatty liver very well seems to equal fatty arteries, and high cholesterol-

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randibear
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well it was news to me.

I read you treat it with low fat diet and exercise.

does that sound right?

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Yes, sounds right to me.

No alcohol (obvious I guess) and taking milk thistle.

My H is a big meat eater, and likes expensive cheeses.
What can I do? I'm not his mommy.

But he does go to the gym 4x a week for hard cardio, and lifts weights.
We use only coconut oil or olive oil.

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My opinion... They probably are one of the causes of fatty liver.

Statins treat Big Pharma to big profits.

Fatty liver is best addressed by a proper diet.... and yes to exercise.

I believe in eating healthy fats and LOW carb.

http://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb-diet-best-fatty-liver

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Yeah, I have my opinions on statins, too. I just don't know tho- every day there are new reports one day they're good, one day they're bad.

In my H's family, immediate family, men have died in their 40's from heart disease, open heart surgeries, heart attacks.

Last year I dragged him to ER after he finally told me he'd been having chest pains for 2 days.

Thank God it wasn't a heart attack. All checked out.

Anyway, freaking myself out.
I do what I can, but the man's his own man, God love him.

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Furthermore Randi, everyone always thinks this is a men thing.

My 52 (!) year old sister had a heart attack 3 weeks ago!
Had angioplasty too.

Ugh, this whole topic fills me with anxiety. Sorry.

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my father, 1 aunt, his mother, and three brothers all died of heart attacks. mom's father died of black lung and her mother had a stroke.

my one sister has already had two angioplasties and she wasnt even 50.

my family history sucks.

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Sorry to hear about your sis Surprise, hopefully she is on the path to wellness.
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Fatty Liver is not caused by cholesterol. It is caused by too much sugar.

Milk Thistle can help, as can Globe Artichoke. I used both to treat my own case of Fatty Liver (caused by TPN).

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Huh. I did forget to add he eats ice cream and English chocolate all the time *sigh*

Thanks 2roads. My sis is doing okay, and of course,
now on statins.

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quote:
Originally posted by Razzle:

Fatty Liver is not caused by cholesterol. It is caused by too much sugar.


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Exactly

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Also, family history of heart issues may be from MTHFR mutations, which are treatable.

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An alarming article in the NYT about fatty liver disease:

http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/06/13/threat-grows-from-liver-illness-tied-to-obesity/?_php=true&_type=blogs&ref=health&_r=0

I bought my H a high end bullet type juicer for Father's Day,
after we watched the movie:

Fat, Sick, and Nearly Dead.

Going to try and replace breakfast and lunch with green drinks.

[ 06-14-2014, 09:35 PM: Message edited by: surprise ]

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From the above link:

As a result, doctors who treat fatty liver stress the urgency of diet and exercise to their patients. But many find it too hard, especially those who are obese and in the late stages of the disease, said Dr. Malik at the University of Pittsburgh.

“A lot of times when I see a patient with fatty liver,” he said, “the first thing out of their mouth is, ‘Well, is there a pill for this?’ And there’s not. There just isn’t. You have to make lifestyle changes, and that’s a much more difficult pill for people to swallow.”

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Surprise, is the movie available on You Tube or only on Netflix?

Don't forget to eat healthy fats. They will keep you from overindulging in sweets and carbs.

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Yes, we rented the movie from Netflix, but I believe you can rent it online through Amazon.

It was really good- not preachy, down to earth, excellent to see from the heart transformation and change.

I don't have weight to lose, but green drinks with the fiber/ easy to digest will help me quite a bit, I am sure!

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High Fructose corn syrup is likely the biggest cause of non alcohol fatty liver disease.

I would avoid it like the plague.

http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/WBL02191/High-Fructose-Corn-Syrup-and-Your-Liver.html

Dan

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