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lpkayak
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can you have both?

is lyme sometimes mis dx as congestive heart failure

anyone dealing with this?

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Sure you can have both. Hope you DON'T!

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lpkayak
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hope i dont too...now they are talking about endocarditis too...no testing done...just cuz of sx...this is all neww to me ive always said my heart was fine and the sx were reflux or costochondritis

now breathing and fatigue is the sx...i have a history of breathing problems from bad air...and i have asthma dx but it never bothers me unless i am in mold

my ankles are not swollen...do they have to be to have chf?

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no they don't. my mom died of chf but I still say lyme.

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Both lyme and bartonella can effect endothelial tissue and cause endocarditis.

http://wisdom-magazine.com/Article.aspx/3130/

My grandmother developed CHF with associated swelling of the legs/ankles and lung congestion when she was in her early 70's. We figured that was the end, but she lived to be a happy, relatively healthy 99! They do have amazing drugs to deal with fluid build-up these days.

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Ty...nothing is ever simple is it...i am so scared they will put me in hospital and not let me out and treat me for something i dont have

I get so sick from almost all drugs...but its so hard to organize tx

I wish buhner would open a clinic...he is amazing

Rowing...thank yo so much for that artical

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i didnt know he moved to new mexico...i really wish he worked closely with a doc

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You might be able to ease congestive heart failure by supplementing CoEnzyme Q10.

The new supplement MitoQ is CoQ10 with an added ion, which helps it to get into the body's cells quickly and more efficiently, so that the mitochondria can use it to make energy.

In the past, I read about people having good results using the regular CoQ10 for CHF, but you need to take large doses, 400 mg or more daily.
The MitoQ is pretty expensive at this point, but the investors are trying to make back some of their investments.

You can buy it through the website or through Amazon...it takes a couple weeks to ship from New Zealand.

Or you can buy it through a vendor on eBay, and it takes two or three days.
The price is the same.

I am taking double doses and it's helping my fatigue.

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i take coq10 but have been buying cheaper lately when i get mercolas i do much better but it is so expensivei also seem to need lipoic acid with it

thanks carol

i have not been taking care of myself for two yrs cuz i moved into a new house and found out it had mold so had to deal with that and i had cancer and a second knee surgery in the last year...since may i have been redoing floors of whole house and its really stressful having things so messed up...but i am almost thru that phase...and i guess i really have to get back on the supps i have run out of

thanks again

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Carol in PA
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Try the MitoQ.
It works alot better than the regular stuff.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MitoQ


If you're taking statins, that can be causing congestive heart failure.

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