susank
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Could we have an essential oil thread?
Anyway, I have tried a few oils. Concerned because I am so sensitive to things - and am chemical sensitive. I also have dryness issues and don't want to "burn" and further dry out my nose/nasal passages. (Inhaling).
I have tried Thieves and a few others. 1-2 drops with 1-2 teaspoons fractionated coconut oil.
Unsure about the cup and inhale method. I have dipped my fingers in my little bowl of an EO/FCO and cupped hands and inhaled. OK to do that? Or cup and inhale one does not dilute? Does this method get the oils into the bloodstream? For "antibiotic/antiviral" use?
I have also put the mix on bottom of feet at night. Most times OK (even after Thieves) the next day. However......the other night I applied some Thieves this way - and the next day I felt so sick. Like poisoned sick. Unsure if was a herx or my body was saying no to the oils.
Curious with the Thieves -the following morning - I swear I could smell it in my urine. And I felt so dreadful. Was not sure what to do to counter the effects.
These effects don't seem to happen with cup/inhale method.
----- Also - I found this website in regards to EO's and Mycoplasma:
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canefan17
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The biggest regret I have in my entire Lyme treatment (and maybe in my life given my now current situation) is experimenting with essential oils.
I did take them internally (as well as feet and baths). One night I experimented with an oil... I put drops in a capsule and swallowed it down. Ended up in the hospital for 3 days and haven't been the same since. Thought I was going to die and probably should have. Doctors in Daytona, Fl thought I was a "druggie" (common in that town) just wanting sedative/pain killers. So they left me there with NO treatment at all.
At the time I wasn't on abxs because my health was probably 80% and good enough to get by. But I needed Rifampin/Zithro and IV sedatives (administered by a different hospital on that 3rd day) to get me out of the wood-works. The doctor at the 3rd hospital said she believed I was suffering from encephalitis and was lucky to be alive given I was on 72 hours of no sleep and a swollen brain.
I think essential oils are extremely potent & penetrate the central nervous system with ease - and in doing I believe they agitate and "wake up" dormant infections. In my case it seemed to be Bartonella/Mycoplasma-like organisms.
3 years later and I still need 4 abxs & ativan just to keep the symptoms down. If I stop abxs I relapse and end up in hospital with same symptoms as the night I took the oils. I've always had Bartonella but this is like Bartonella on steroids.
Anybody that has ever asked me about oils gets this story. For the record I took YoungLiving Oils (by all accounts a great brand).
Some people swear by the oils and I'm glad it helps them. Like anything else it's not for everyone. For me (and a few others I've spoken with) it was detrimental to our health. And when the people I spoke with had these reactions they were given the all too often Lyme encouragement of... "you're just herxing keep it up."
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Susan .. I think the oils are like everything else.. they work for some and perhaps not for others .. as canefan has told us.
I find them effective for a number of things, but I did not discover them until after I was successfully treated for Lyme.
I like using them for immune protection (Thieves), breathing issues, pain, etc.
My preferred method is to put them on my feet or to inhale in a diffuser.
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susank
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Thanks.
Canefan that is horrible. What new oil did you try that caused so much trouble for you?
The other night I tried a new oil - Geranium - inhaled - a few hours before I put the Thieves on my feet.
I think the Geranium did not agree with me.
Also think the Thieves might be too strong for me.
I think I do OK with Frankincense and Peppermint.
Last night I was in horrible pain with my neck, shoulders and upper arms. This has been ongoing. So much so that I can barely type or even hold a book in bed.
I used one drop of Frankincense in a teaspoon of FCO and rubbed in the areas. Today I feel not too horrible and have much less pain those areas.
Maybe I should just stick with Frankincense and occasionally Peppermint.
Cane - really - what oil was so bad for you?
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Brussels
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I wouldn't ingest the stuff either. Only mild oils. I would used them RUBBED. Next to points with symptoms.
I still use many strong oils but ONLY RUBBED.
I swear they do penetrate well, specially if mixed in some other oils like grapeseed oil, for example. Or jojoba, one of my favorites.
Ingested, wow, I did that a bit, very bits, and I can say it's not a very good thing to do...
Rubbed can though be wonderful. There was a practioner here in LN in the past who could put her lyme pretty under control mostly by rubbing essential oils.
I don't remember if she ingested them, probably not, but I do remember she rubbed them all over. She posted under the name of Farah.
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Brussels
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There are though the Rizols. They taste nastily bad, so I did ingest these awful oils. I don't remember if they helped, but I'd rather be sick than take those awful Rizols (ozonated oils)...
But they were conceived to be ingested. Check on dr. K.'s site.
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Yes, personally, I'd be cautious about ingesting, but they definitely can be a great support to treatment when used externally! Helps to relieve symptoms sometimes, too!
Hot Epsom salts bath and a few drops of a detox oil are great for helping out a herxheimer reaction.
I love using Thieves in the laundry and diffusing to help ward off illness.
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susank
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What is a good detox oil?
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