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droid1226
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So if you get bit by the "lone star tick" then eat red meat, some can have an anaphylactic shock like reaction and die?

So if you get bit by another tick and eat a peanut , couldn't you have the same reaction to the mold? Peanuts are like the highest rated moldy foods there is, plus inflammatory. So it's not the peanut itself, it's the mold.

People are allergic to shellfish, isn't it possible to be ultra allergic the the heavy metals in it if you have that tick borne illness already?

Idk...Just a thought. That symptoms are a result of you not being able to tolerate your surroundings, not the actual spirochete that is making you sick. Causing inflammatory reactions left and right.

Highly unlikely. But we need a new paradigm to think of this disease in.

[ 03-29-2015, 04:44 PM: Message edited by: droid1226 ]

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Not likely I guess, canned fish have high metals and people don't have the same reaction.

Just wondering if anyone had any thoughts?

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Interesting since Claritin is supposed to help. And now I'm allergic to just about everything.

Regarding the allergies .. In my case and many others, it's all about the health of the gut.

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Me too - Lyme too! Ugh!
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Lyme for a lot of people causes a Th2 immune shift. An overactive Th2 causes antibody production going out of control. As a result you get allergies against everything.

So no, lyme by itself is not an allergy.

For some people (like myself) the immune system does shift in the Th1 direction (which is the deadly pro-inflammatory side) as a respond to the lyme bacteria. Its basically your body's attempt to keep the infection under control. But there are several reasons why even a Th1 shift is not sufficient for lyme eradication. Think of immune exhaustion, mineral deficiencies, heavy metal blockage, etc.
So people with th1 shift have very little allergies.

You can read more about th1 and th2 balancing here:
http://selfhacked.com/2014/06/16/supplements-foods-exercise-right-type-th1-vs-th2-dominance/

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Thanks for the great link S13. I mislabeled the title. I was more referring to people blaming the actual peanut or shellfish when it's another reason like the mold....

But now I'm reading that link and I'm thinking of asking to get tested for that. The only success I've had with this disease is methylation so I'm studying that link. That's crazy. Never looked into Th1 or Th2 but now I want to know.

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I think the LLMD in Louisiana treats this Th1 and Th2 .. not sure how he does it though.

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I have always been told my peanut sx were from the mold- not the nut.

I also always read that (and makes sense to me) that tick disease causes an autoimmune response that triggers the allergies. ?

is this what you are takling about?

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I eat lots of peanut butter. Does this mean I have to stop?

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There is absolutely, positively, nothing "just" about lyme. Ever.
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And, that being said (I just had to say that!) . . . and that, IMO, both doctors and general population seem to think infections are simple. We've been bamboozled into that by the advent of the wonder drugs that did work so well on a few "simpler" infections.

your question about allergy is important. And, I think that the reaction from a tick bite can be a totally different experience for some people

individual genetics are important, too, in allergic reactions

and so much also depends up what that tick in carrying with it as to if infections are passed. And the strains of such infections also dictate the serious of infections.

Yet . . . immune function IS really important to look at. It's so very complex and so very individual. It's amazing how lyme can just dismantle and "flip" immune controls, too.

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http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=034910;p=0

Topic: Meat Allergy from tick bite - reference links

Immune specifics & testing detailed here.
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Never a dull moment with any of this. I developed "allergies" after a bite. First to onions, then raspberries, then peanut butter. I suspected mold sensitivity after the berries. Now must be careful of susceptible foods, including coffee.
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