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Summer3
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What is a typical herx from IM antibiotics?

When should I expect some type of improvement?

Is it even reasonable to expect improvement at all? I've been treating with herbs and heavy oral abx for nearly 4 years with no improvement. I've treated and tested for all co-infections, metals, parasites, thyroid, candida, mold, etc.

My main issues are nerve damage. I can't feel my hands and feet and my autonomic nervous system is completely malfunctioning and unresponsive even to symptomatic treatment.

My heart rate goes from 0-200, BP drops to 0 non-stop, temperature is unstable, weight loss, etc. I have a pacemaker as well so at least I'm somewhat protected......from death.....LOL.

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It is my understanding that it takes a few months to see improvement with IM bicillin.

If oral antibiotics did not work for you, then you are wise to go to IM.

Hopefully, you will not notice a herx at all since IM is slow-acting. But, it is almost as good as IV since it is in your body killing germs much longer than any oral antibiotic.

Here is what Burrascano says about it:

"BENZATHINE PENICILLIN Comparative studies published by Fallon et. al. at Columbia University have shown that parenteral therapy is superior to oral therapy in chronic patients. Options include intramuscular long acting penicillin G (benzathine penicillin, or "Bicillin-LA") or intravenous antibiotics.

For an antibiotic in the penicillin class to be effective, time-killing curves show that significant levels of antibiotic must be sustained for 72 hours. Bicillin LA is a sustained release formulation that meets these criteria.

Published studies in children and adults, combined with over a decade of experience with this therapy by front line, Lyme-treating physicians have established the efficacy, safety and usefulness of this medication. In many patients it is more effective than oral antibiotics for treating Lyme, and compares closely to intravenous therapy in terms of efficacy if the dose is high enough.

It is usually administered three or four times weekly for six to twelve months. It has the advantage of being relatively inexpensive, free of gastrointestinal side effects, unlikely to promote the overgrowth of yeast, and has an excellent safety record spanning many decades." (page 16)

As he says, expect to be on it for 6 months to a year. If your dose is high enough, expect to see improvement! I believe you will.

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When I was on Bicillin shots, the only real 'herx' I got:
without fail about 1 hour after receiving the shot,

I would HAVE to lie down and take a nap for an hour or so.

Now the cyst buster needed to be paired w/ Bicillin, oh yes, that caused a 'typical' herx, and quite difficult, as I built up on it.

Then it got easier. Did the shots for 6 months. Glad I did.

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