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I'm taking three grams a day, but I don't think it has made me worse......Esther C...I didn't tell my doc, but I figured it really didn't matter as I wouldn't consider that mega dosing.
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My doc doesn't think so - he wants me to boost my Vit D blood level to at least 70. I take liquid NOW drops.
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Keebler
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- Razzle,
how I understand it:
(other than a normal amount in a regular meal) antioxidants should not be taken WITH mepron or really with any Rx - but a couple hours apart.
We still require them and they are in all our vegetables, too. Without antioxidants, our livers would have very hard time to make glutathione and move out the "trash" so to speak.
But, as they move out the trash we don't want Rx to move out of the body too fast, so that's why 2-3 hours away (by both clock directions) is best for liver support, etc. that contain antioxidants.
Yet, megadoses are probably not a good idea, either. Just regular doses.
Same for juicing as that would be a concentration of antioxidants. Juicing probably also not a good idea in large amount as seen in all those TV infomercials for blenders, etc. A 4 - 6 oz. glass of veggie juice with some solid food or the pulp put back in is a better "dose" for any body.
But even a reasonable serving of veggie juice best a couple away from any Rx so as not to wash it out of the body too fast. Rx needs to get a head start on the road before the clean up crew comes along. -
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There is an increasing amount of literature that suggests that taking high doses of antioxidants in isolation (i.e., in supplement or IV form, rather than in foods) may actually contribute to free radical formation.
Here's a quote from the article link below:
"...A problem occurs when we take a high-dose antioxidant supplement. For example, taking a high-dose vitamin C supplement provides only one form of an antioxidant. There are no other antioxidants in this supplement to offer the protective give and take by providing extra electrons. The end result could be an abundance of antioxidant molecules of vitamin C that are now free radicals themselves. They have become highly reactive with no means of neutralizing themselves. This creates more oxidative stress..."
Linus Pauling pioneered the IV Vitamin C treatment of Cancer. Some believe he used the Sodium Ascorbate form instead of Ascorbic Acid...perhaps that's what makes the difference in outcomes in results in some of the studies presented in the above link...
-------------------- -Razzle Lyme IgM IGeneX Pos. 18+++, 23-25+, 30++, 31+, 34++, 39 IND, 83-93 IND; IgG IGeneX Neg. 30+, 39 IND; Mayo/CDC Pos. IgM 23+, 39+; IgG Mayo/CDC Neg. band 41+; Bart. (clinical dx; Fry Labs neg. for all coinfections), sx >30 yrs. Posts: 4166 | From WA | Registered: Feb 2011
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our local naturopath who has a good reputation for treating lyme gives high dosages of vitamin c and minerals all the time. Its part and parcel of his program.
You would be better off taking lipsomal c than ester c. It is proven to enter the cells better. I make my own lipsomal c but it can be purchased at www.livonlab.com they had a number of articles on it on their website.
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I know the guy who owns Crucial Four. The company is based in Dallas too.
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TF
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From Burrascano Guidelines, under "Supplements for Joint Symptoms" page 30:
"VITAMIN C
Vitamin C is important to aid in maintaining healthy connective tissues. High doses are recommended- 1000 to 6000 mg a day as tolerated (if the dose is too high for you it may cause acid stomach, gas and loose stools, so therefore dose titration is necessary). Consider using “Ester-C” (non-acid and longer acting), or “C-Salts” (very well tolerated). Start with a low dose and increase slowly to find your tolerance level."
So, I doubt it would be dangerous for a lyme patient in treatment.
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I recently stopped taking Vitamin C and GSE (which I would assume has a good amount of Vitamin C) and almost immediately, all the joint pain I had cleared. In my case, we think I may have hemochromatosis and vitamin C is terrible for someone who tends to store too much iron. It's probably a bad idea to take it unless you know you don't have a problem with storing too much iron.
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