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Hi guys so I'm currently taking 30 drops twice a day [60 drops total] of Cumanda, Houttunyia, Banderol and Samento.
It's been 3 weeks and no herxing or any side effects- as if I'm just drinking water. My main symptoms are sleep disturbance, occasional muscle twitches and finger/arm stiffness.
I was thinking, if none of these symptoms are any better/different in 4 months from now, should I give up on the herbs and try antibiotics or something else? When would you guys throw in the towel as far as saying maybe the herbs just won't do much? 4 months? 6? Should I up my dosage to 120 drops a day to see if anything changes?
sparkle7
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Have you tried antibiotics or have you just taken the Cowden protocol?
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havent taken antibiotics yet just the herbs.
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cottonbrain
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I am going out on a limb here: my opinion is that if you don't feel *something* within 3-4 weeks then you either have a really strong constitution or the product is not working for you.
You may want to change the dose or check for interactions with other products you are taking or foods you consume.
Do you normally feel a reaction to drugs / herbs? I always do, but I am extremely sensitive.
Of course, none of us can give you an answer to your question -- just opinions based on our experience. Good luck.
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- I'd get to a LLMD if that is at all possible. Or consider a LL ND and a different approach. I'm just guessing here that you are not with a LL ND advising this treatment as it might be more comprehensive under their guidance.
When considering herbal / nutritional / adjunct methods, because lyme is so very complex & unique, as are possible coinfections:
if at all possible - because each person & each case is different - it's best to consult with an ILADS-educated LL ND (lyme literate naturopathic doctor) (or similar) who has completed four years of post-graduate medical education in the field of herbal and nutritional medicine -
- and someone who is current with ILADS' research & presentations, past and present, and has completed the ILADS Physician Training Program (see: www.ilads.org )
so they really know all they can about the science of lyme . . . how lyme (& other TBD) act and what we can do about that in various ways.
Many LL NDs incorporate antibiotics (depending upon the licensing laws in their state). Some LLMDs and LL NDs have good working relationships.
When possible, it's great to have both a LLMD and LL ND and even better when they have a long-standing professional relationship.
Herbal Safety considerations & reference books; etc.
Links to many articles and books by holistic-minded LL doctors of various degrees who all have this basic approach in common:
Understanding of the importance of addressing the infection(s) fully head-on with specific measures from all corners of medicine;
knowing which supplements have direct impact, which are only support and which are both.
You can compare and contrast many approaches with links to articles, books, methods . . .
BODY WORK methods / links (and why anyone who works on your spine MUST be LL to the degree they at least know to never suddenly twist neck or spine. Never. Ever. And that we should never be advised to do neck / head / shoulder stands.) -
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Brussels
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Me too: if after 10 days, I feel nothing, the treatment is wrong, I just try something else.
3 months is a lot, in my opinion. I usually shift even after a couple of days not feeling anything.
At these high doses, you should feel something (if you are killing borrelia and yeast). your problems are somewhere else (than these 2 critters)?
I reacted more to the whole cats claw than Samento...
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sparkle7
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I don't know your whole history but in my opinion - antibiotics are the thing to do first if you just got Lyme or were recently bitten. If I were bitten by a tick, I would probably do this first.
It's complicated, though. How do you know you have Lyme? Have you been diagnosed? If you just got bit by a tick, that's the best time to try antibiotics to try to knock out the infection.
If it's been a while & you are still ill with persistant Lyme - the Cowden herbs may help. If you don't feel anything, you may not have Lyme or they aren't going to help you.
It seems like it's been a long enough time to see if they are going to work. This is just my opinion & I'm not a doctor.
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