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I know the flu shot issue is very controversial and I haven's gotten one for a few years, but I had to to go to my primary to get better control of my asthma(she put me on Advair which has helped).
She wanted me to get flu shot, saying if anyone is going to end up in the hospital with the flu, I am in the high percentage, due to my asthma. It really made me feel that I needed to get it. She said it did not have preservatives or thimersal.
I put it off since I was going to be babysitting and did not want to take a chance dealing with any side effects of the shot, but made an appt to go back next week to get it.
My question, do most people dealing with asthma get the shot? I am considering cancelling my appt.
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- Do you have a LLMD?
Your regular doctor would not understand how lyme affects a body so your LLMD would be best to ask. With lyme, the immune system if "flipped" and really messed up. It does not act as in a person without lyme.
Have you been assessed for BABESIA?
There are so many things you can do to be proactive in support of your lungs and against flu that your doctor has overlooked or does not know about.
ELDERBERRY EXTRACT for starters. For lungs, a HIMALAYAN SALT PIPE . . . ALLICIN . . . .
Being gluten, dairy and corn free (for they all cause more phlegm in respiratory system and phlegm is safe hiding for infectious microbes).
So many things to protect ourselves that do not post the risk that vaccines can.
And, mercury is not the only dangerous additive regarding vaccines. It's true some vaccines no longer have mercury but some still do . . . and aluminum and other additives are to be considered.
Herbal Safety considerations & reference books; etc.
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- With asthma, I hope by now your doctor has directed you to be sure there are no "fuzzy" items around your house and to not wear corduroy or chenille or anything that sheds.
Even fuzzy bathroom towels should be banished. A cork bathmat is safest for those with asthma.
Also to be me mindful of chemical sprays on textiles and furniture, avoid vinyl as best you can and all scented products.
A vacuum with a HEPA filter is very important, too.
I sure hope all that was done a long time ago but some doctors just don't discuss this important action. -
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- Babysitting.
You say that you are to be babysitting - so the assumption is that this is not likely just a once in a while event. If the child / children are friends / family that might be one thing
if for pay and not friend / family circle, that might be another
considering if they would wish / want / demand any babysitter -- or even anyone their kids(s) see to be up on vaccines.
If so, this would go far beyond the flu shot as just about every illness under the sun down is being made to be the scariest thing in the world and all caused by those who don't keep up with shots (not true).
Be very careful with this mindset. Be informed and know what your body needs, etc. Know which vaccines are vital (polio, tetanus) and which ones are not -- or what additives you will and won't risk.
Don't make excuses for where you come to stand but be prepared to run into this.
Brush up on how to prevent spreading germs and that will cover so many bases. Don't work if you are sneezing, etc. -
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Thanks, Keebler. I was positive for Babesia years back. Have not been retested in a few years.
I called my LLMD's office but realized dr must be at the ILADS conference. I will call again Monday, but I believe was told a couple years ago to get the shot, which confused me. I thought all LLMD's would say no to it. (I did not get it at that time, but my asthma was more under control then).
I will like to get a name of a LLND also. Money as with most is an issue to change to a difference dr.
I was not told about the "fuzzies" but thank you for mentioning it. I knew stuffed animals were not good.
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- I think I was writing the post before your last one as you posted.
It just infuriates me that a doctor would tell you the only way to help your lungs is a flu shot but then fail to tell you a very vital detail about "banishing fuzzies" all around your home and wardrobe. Arrhgh.
Be sure to avoid ibuprofen as that can be terrible for anyone with asthma. It constricts the blood vessels all throughout the body (and also is hard on kidneys for that reason).
Of course, you likely know to avoid acetaminophen due to the stress on liver.
Water is the best thing for your lungs. Green Tea, too, but not some of what's in store. Link will follow.
As for a LL ND, I'm not in your area but you might check with your lyme support group. If not a LL ND, at least one with some degree of lyme and BABESIA knowledge.
Babesia can really affect the lungs so that's why it's vital any doctor who treats your lungs knows all about babesia. It is very often chronic, too, so be sure to communicate with your LLMD about your lung issues. -
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- Start here with ELDERBERRY & CORDYCEPS (also really helped my lungs)
Though not at all about lyme, this is one of the best reference resources on my bookshelf that has wonderful chapters, many graciously available through their website.
The ONE EARTH HERBAL SOURCEBOOK (Tillotson, et al)
He is a doctor of Ayurvedic Medicine; She a doctor of Oriental Medicine and Acupuncturist. The third co-author is a doctor of optometry. -
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- I mentioned above that some tea sold in stores / web sites is not good. Some is, of course but it can be an education to find a good source. Details:
Google: "HIMALAYAN SALT PIPE" (but a ceramic one is best, not plastic. You might even have something at home that would work with a good sea salt from your market) -
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I believe the one thing that kept me well last winter was using Sambucus BLack elderberry without the alcohol.
I will into salicylates and I don't use green tea as I probably should.
I would like to pursue looking into Babesia and if it is contributing to my issues, but that would be a few dollars. THanks.
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My doctor is smart enough to know that flu shots are not all they are cracked up to be.
I'm not sure he even offers them anymore. I think I heard his nurse tell someone last year where they could get a shot.
He used to have a list of all the toxins in the shots posted in his exam rooms!
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- One behavior that we need to be on watch for within ourselves is what happens to a perfectly smart person when there is some doctor or nurse who wants to make us feel utterly stupid regarding this matter.
Do we become stronger and state concisely "no" with maybe just one sentence that sums it up for us [just for ourselves for our own file statement, mind you, don't pull the whole world into the appointment]
. . . or do we turn into a delinquent child muttering incoherently? The dynamics of bullying can really mess with our body's ability to stand strong - or even to speak one clear sentence. Be on guard. Be clear. -
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I started this Lyme battle 16 years ago fighting for my son to get a right diagnosis. I felt I was fighting the current alone and dealing with medical professionals who have their degrees still can intimidate me when I can't remember all the info I'd like to. You're right about getting a "statement" that I can make to convey my beliefs. I need to work on that.
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Patty, Regarding asthma, supplemental magnesium may help.
Keebler mentioned the Himalayan salt pipe for asthma. There were people at LymeNet who were able to decrease the use of their inhalers with a salt pipe.
I got one to use for bronchitis, pneumonia, and the dry cough of influenza. The prices have really come down since I bought mine. Look for salt inhalers at Amazon.com.
There are studies showing that taking Vitamin D can reduce the incidence of catching influenza.
You need a good level of Vitamin D in your body to absorb Magnesium. I've been taking 5000 units of D3 daily, and have not gotten a cold or bronchitis in years.
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- MichaelTampa just posted this link in another thread:
Vaccine ingredients -
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Thanks Keebler, had meant to put it here, but topic was shown as closed, looks like maybe this started in General, and was closed/moved here.
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Besides the Flumist, there is are also preservative free versions of the flu vaccine.
My immunologist recommends that my family get them to help protect me from getting the flu. Especially since I am around my niece and nephew who go to daycare and preschool.
Whether the vaccine helps me or not is a good question as I have not responded to similar vaccines in the past. That's part of my CVID diagnosis.
Last year I got the preservative free flu vaccine because both my immunologist and LLMD hoped that what little coverage it might provide would be better than no coverage at all. I did not have any side effects from the vaccine. And I did not get the flu, Thank God! (The flu virus would have been an automatic hospitalization, yikes!)
So talk with your LLMD. Depending on the state of your immune system, you may benefit from the preservative free flu vaccine or it may be best for you to hold off on it this year. There is no right answer that fits everyone.
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- It's very nice to see some alternative forms come along.
I would still want to see the full ingredient list for even a "preservative free" vaccine, whether shot or nasal spray.
They may be all just dandy. Yet, they do not say they are "additive free" but -just as with any food or beverage - I'd want to see the full list and have time to study that on my own, not being on the spot in a doctor's office.
I resent how patients are just to take whatever is shoved in their faces and not given an ingredient sheet beforehand. Like a cattle chute.
Also, it may require a preservative for safety. Some preservatives are safe and effective; some can come from citrus sources, etc.
Another promising move is a vaccine on a patch, applied to skin. TED Talks had a wonderful presentation about that around two years ago. I could see many advantages to that for those times when a vaccine would be a good move. -
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