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My mantra is "take another supplement and develop a new problem."
Finding what works FOR US and not AGAINST is very difficult sometimes!
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More is not always better. Be careful to always reevaluate the need of an old supplement when adding a new med or supplement. Check for drug-supp & supp- supp interactions too.
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- A lot here. A whole reference chapter just for you, that I hope will be of help over time to copy & paste to your study web file.
Supplements should never be taken or viewed this way.
It can be easier, really, but there is much to consider.
I hope that whomever is working with you is not stacking supplements on top just to correct your reactions.
Anyone working with you should be figuring out the REASON / SOURCE for your symptoms. Some may not require a Rx or supplement at all but a change in the variable factors (diet, environment, body care, etc).
Some symptoms - when the cause / reason is identified will require attention in some / various manners.
CHANGING OUT the supplement is the best way to go if one needs support methods, rather than "take another" take a DIFFERENT ONE . . . if it's indicated.
Or ADJUST THE FORMULA. Bring it into balance.
and what works at one point in time might not work at another.
First, it's not clear if you are talking about nutrient supplements like vitamins, etc.
or herbal supplements. They are very different in many ways from each other.
As for vitamins, etc. some can be toxic in excess such as B6, D and many vitamins on the market are not manufactured correctly at all. some contain additives or gluten, etc.
Vitamins and amino acids require a balance.
As for minerals, those, too, require a balance and many with lyme have certain deficiencies such as with magnesium -- but each person may need a different form of magnesium. Not all are equal.
One key point about any formula you take with L-Glutamine / Glutamic acid is that it can be toxic for those with lyme:
See post: Caution: Aspartate; Glutamine; and Phenylalanine (3 excitatory amino acids that can be wrong for us when added as supplements, beyond a normal dietary level)
Seaweed has its own natural MSG (monosodium glutamate) and can be very excitatory
Vitamins, proteins, etc. should be in balance.
In talking more about supplement, though, if one causes trouble, it's not the right one for your body / circumstances / this point in time
or
the overall formula is out of balance.
Talking about herbs, now. Each herb has its own "nature" and "properties"
Some are Yin / cold / calming; some are yang / hot / stimulating.
Some address stagnation; some wind.
There must be a balance of these properties.
And herbs need to be specific to the individual's constitution. Not everyone can take ginger or gingko, for instance.
Though not at all about lyme, this is one of the best reference resources on my bookshelf that has wonderful chapters, many graciously available through their website.
Zhang Protocol -
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- When considering herbal / nutritional / adjunct methods, because lyme is so very complex & unique, as are possible coinfections:
if at all possible - because each person & each case is different - it's best to consult with an ILADS-educated LL ND (lyme literate naturopathic doctor) (or similar) who has completed four years of post-graduate medical education in the field of herbal and nutritional medicine -
- and someone who is current with ILADS' research & presentations, past and present, and has completed the ILADS Physician Training Program (see: www.ilads.org )
so they really know all they can about the science of lyme . . . how lyme (& other TBD) act and what we can do about that in various ways. Proper ASSESSMENT of not just lyme but coinfectoins is vital. Someone trained by ILADS is best to assess.
Many LL NDs incorporate antibiotics (depending upon the licensing laws in their state). Some LLMDs and LL NDs have good working relationships.
When possible, it's great to have both a LLMD and LL ND and even better when they have a long-standing professional relationship.
For those considering complementary support methods / or other avenues entirely:
Herbal Safety considerations & reference books; etc.
BOOKS - Links to many articles and books by holistic-minded LL doctors of various degrees who all have this basic approach in common:
knowing which methods offer assertive & direct impact, which are only support and which are both. And when to use what, how to combine, & when to step back.
You can compare and contrast many approaches with links to articles, books, methods . . .
BODY WORK methods / links (and why anyone who works on your spine MUST be LL to the degree they at least know to never suddenly twist neck or spine. Never. Ever - not if there is inflammation in the spine with active infection. And that we should never be advised to do neck / head / shoulder stands.)
Links here to two major sources: Buhner, & Zhang. Be sure to get their books.
RIFE Machine - Reference LINKS -
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- Food is some of the best medicine. Garden / culinary spices can help heal and make delicious foods from the earth.
This is the best place to begin on a basic level, books:
A SPOONFUL OF GINGER
THE CURE IS IN THE KITCHEN
I also go for things that are high in nutrients as I will not take vitamins - I want them from foods / concentrated food herbs.
For instance, stinging nettle leaf powder is packed with excellent nutrients. It's helped me in the past with iron deficiency, etc. and other aspects.
Mushrooms, too, are full of nutrients. -
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- As for pain relief, two basic pillars to help there. Magnesium and a good basic liver support nutrient herb can go a long way in helping with comfort levels. So can water.
LIVER & KIDNEY SUPPORT & and several HERXHEIMER support links, too. -
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- ESSENTIAL FATTY ACIDS
Another example of how shoring up our diet first to CORRECT the CAUSES of some symptoms, & how our food can help in a myriad of ways, Essential Fatty Acids are very important as well in prevent / alleviating some symptoms and bringing strength to our cells. For starters:
. . . 7. Hemp seed contains a nutrient also found in breast milk.
The Oil found in hemp seed is rich in gamma linolenic acid (GLA), a nutritious unsaturated fatty acid, which is also found in breast milk.
In addition to GLA, hemp seed oil is packed with other omega-3 and 6 fatty acids, making it a healthier alternative to many other vegetable oils, Ambrose told PBS NewsHour . . . . -
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Been there, done that. With an exception or two I now only take what my LLMD recommends, and I have decided to scale those back as well. I don't take everything every day. Supplements may get rotated back in if I flare up, i.e. alpha lipoic acid, N-acetyl cysteine, L-carnitine. I have ten sitting on my counter right now and I feel that is too much and other than magnesium, an adaptogen, and folic acid, I don't take them daily. I even bought and read Buhner's book and while I learned a bit from it, I don't feel I learned much new as far as herbs.
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