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On wobenzym 12 tabs/day for 10 months or so, per LLMD, with no visible results.
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Hello Friend Enzymes are used for assisting with digestive break-down of certain foods (ie protein, starch, plant fibers, etc). They may assist with detoxification (by neutralizing toxins in the gut) but this function is also limited. As a trained herbalist, I would not suggest that they are curative for cancer but could be useful and even important to aid digestive function. They could be useful for Lyme too as we detox and have our herx's, but again it is only limited in this function. Helpful, yes. If you have the right product. And if your digestive needs happen to be such that enzymes would be helpful to you (ie, if you are low in digestive enzymes to begin with)*.
I like Rainbow Light's digestive enzyme products. One of these has marshmallow root which helps to soothe the lining of the digestive tract, rendering it more flexible which aids elimination and digestive uptake, each alike*. I can't remember the name of the product but you could google it.
Unless, of course, your doc has recommended another product.
To absorb excess digestive system toxins during herx's, you could try activated charcoal capsules too*. But take it separately from medicatgions to be sure it doesn't absorb the drug and alter its effectiveness. Ask your doctor before taking it to be sure s/he is not concerned about nutrient/drug interactions.
*These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA and do not diagnose, cure or prevent any disease.
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PS Anybody interested in researching nutrients, herbs, etc I recommend this site www.healthy.net
Here, only world-renowned or nationally recognized naturopaths, herbalists, acupuncturists, etc post their articles. Again they have to be highly recognized to post here, and the site is extensive. It is highly trustworthy information. You can enter any health topic you want into the search box, in most cases and lots will come up.
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I just began taking wobenzyme yesterday so of course there is no difference yet. I wonder if these enzymes would break up biofilms or kill off spirochetes by some other mechanism?
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I began Wobenzym on November 20, 2011.
Why? I was forced by stomach issues to abandon the prescription NSAID (Non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drug) protocol I had been using for a number of years.
My functioning fell 75%!!! The joint, muscle and total body pain returned. I was devastated. Enter SYSTEMIC enzyme therapy!
Trial: I began with a couple tabs three times a day and crept up quickly to a full dose. In my case it is 10 tabs three times per day on an empty stomach.
Result: Unbelievable, I noticed improvement in about a week. I continued to improve rapidly. I believe I may still be noticing some subtle improvement (I'm 8 weeks into therapy). I am in better shape than with the NSAIDS therapy!
There are many many more benefits as you can see by researching it yourself. I'll take all of the benefits I can get and many of them target Lyme/Co!
Arranging my schedule to take the enzymes on a very empty stomach is priority for me. I want them to work in systemically in every way possible. I don't want to use these for digesting food at this point. That's also a valuable use but is a totally different kettle of fish than using them systemically.
Wobenzym works as a super anti-inflammatory. When you explore the websites below you'll see how many diseases and conditions can benefit and studies supporting it.
I'm very happy to have left the NSAIDS behind and do not have to move to the opiates such as Vicodin etc, etc, etc and the dangers and side effects that go with them. I have experienced NO side effects from the Wobenzym.
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My son took Vitalzym, but we didn't see any changes.
To take these enzymes as a digestive enzyme, they need to be taken with food.
Used as a systemic enzyme, they need to be taken between meals.
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Systemic use of these enzymes--nattokinase first, then Vitalzyme--along with a change of diet saved my husband's life.
He had a heart attack in 1995, and due to the very severe blockages in his blood vessels, needed an immediate triple bypass surgery.
I found the Zone diet--he'd been on the AMA-approved heart disease diet before the attack, which had just been making things worse and worse. He lost 13 pounds and all his blood markers came into normal range in 6 weeks. His doctor was astounded!
And, I found systemic enzymes. Taken 30 minutes before breakfast, these have kept his blood vessels cleared out since, with no relapse. Period.
Anyone with nervous system symptoms can benefit from increased blood flow through the samll capillaries in the brain, which unblocked blood vessels provide. It seems to me that any healing protocol could benefit from excellent blood flow.
For chronic disease, systemic enzymes are not a treatment in themselves, but can assist what else you are doing to get to the cells and take toxins away.
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I used Recths Regulat, nattokinase, zyactinase, and serrapeptase. I got the best bang for a couple months with combination of serrapeptase with Detoxamin suppository (metal chelation) along with cistus incanus tea (also for biofilm).
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Thankyou all for the great info!!! Lightfoot....can you give me an estimate of how much it costs to take that many tablets a day? Wow...that's 30 a day!So glad to hear it helps!
I wonder if the enzymes in fermented foods help in systemic ways? I realize there are not pancreatic enzymes in fermented foods but it seems as if we don't comsume these types of live fermented drinks, yogurts, fermented veggies...etc hardly at all in our modern fast food society. Just wondering if anyone thinks that this lack of fermented enzymes may play a role in chronic illness.
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Hi daystar and all!
Best price I've found is buying the bottle of 800 for $120.00. You can also purchase 200 for $40.00 and 100 for $22.30.
I use VitaCost on the web.
So it's not cheap at these high doses but it is soooooo worth it to me. As I go along I'll try reducing the dose little by little and see if I can get by with less. Right now I'm just basking in the benefits and a little reticent to rock the boat!
I am also having very good results with Low Dose Naltrexone (LDN). It's not the same kind of benefit but also something that has upped my quality of life. It's not of interest to big pharma because it is an off label use and there are only a few studies done...findings are amazing!!
That's a good wondering about the enzymes in fermented foods.....I don't know but I think that type of enzyme targets digestion and the encouragement of beneficial flora in the GI tract.
Good luck!
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Hope it's not a problem to resurrect this old thread, I'm wondering if anyone know another good alternative source/product of zyactinase in the U.S.?
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